PDA

View Full Version : NetRemote Designer Alpha information


Pages : [1] 2
Ben S
February 8th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Hello folks -
I will be sending individuals the NetRemote Designer alpha tomorrow morning (at or before 9am EST).

To successfully run the designer, it is necessary that you have downloaded and run NetRemote 1.0.20.0 on the machine you intend to run the designer on.

This version is to be considered alpha, as some important pieces of functionality are not yet implemented. The list of unimplemented items is long, and it should be - this is alpha software. I have used the designer to successfully design two interfaces to about 95%. I then moved the ccf into Tonto to finish up.

The following are some major unimplemented issues:
* Currently only one file at a time may be opened (you can not copy and paste between files)
* Undo only supported for move and resize, not other things (copy & paste, delete, etc.)
* No support for learned IR codes (plugin actions, delay, and jump are the only implemented actions thus far)
* Hardkeys for devices (called Page Groups in the designer) are not configurable.
* ID tag must still be used for special types (this will be handled much more smoothly so you don't have to worry about the details).
* Color schemes don't allow you to enter hex codes (RGB in decimal only) and don't allow for picking from a color onscreen.
* No reordering of actions within action designer.

To be an alpha/beta tester, you merely have to:
* Have a registered copy of NetRemote
* Be a member of the NetRemote forum
* Ensure that I have your email address

Even if I've told you that you are "in" for the alpha designer, please e-mail me so that I have your up-to-date email address to add to my alpha/beta mailing list. If you and I have not emailed before, please include your forum username so that I can properly identify you.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 09:21 AM
First impressions

Very nice - I particularly like the display of loops and the loop editor
I like the treeview too.

Dragging a window, e.g. the properties window shows a grey fuzzy outline - which appears to be the same shade of grey as the window background, ie it disappears completely.

The mouse wheel only scrolls the tree view/properties etc and not the editor
which is a bit unintuitive when the mouse is over the editor.

Selecting an item in the editor should select the corresponding item in the tree view.

Should avid's plugins show any children on the plugins tab?

There's some weird behaviour on the plugins tab - you can select an action e.g. "Force reconnect to Girder" but when you move the mouse the selection moves back to the previously selected action. However, you can make the selection persistent by right clicking on it while it's showing as selected.

These are all pretty minor - this is going to be a great tool.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 10:05 AM
The variables view is great - would be nice if it could show images too. Does slow NR down quite a lot though.

There's no protection against quitting with an unsaved CCF.

I had an interesting problem when using LDJ - I send the new interface to NR and it loads (occasionally the first time I do this it doesn't refresh the NR window completely, works if I do it again). This seems to cause all the usual startup things you'd expect, but none of the NR feedback works any more. Not quite sure why yet. I'm guessing that it thinks the client has disappeared.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Variables view is only updated from the instance of NR that was active when NR Designer is started. Shutting down NR and getting NR Designer to start it up again leaves the same set of variables that were there from the original copy.

It's fairly common in Girder apps (LDJ in particular) to create feedback labels of the form <basename><index> e.g. LDJ_DVD_Title_0
It would be good if the variables view was actually a tree view and could collapse these into a single heading. Or would it be better use a different form of label e.g. LDJ_DVD_Title[0]. The reason I noticed this is the sort order, which is strictly alpha which of course shows LDJ_DVD_Cover_1, then LDJ_DVD_Cover_10 to 19 and then LDJ_DVD_Cover_2 etc. It looks a bit odd as it stands.

Column widths are not persistent

The designer seems to assume that the correct font to use is Pronto.ttf - rather than using the one specified in the running copy of NR.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 10:33 AM
Exited from NR, then Sent the CCF to NR from the menu. NR starts up.
Double clicked on a button in Designer and got this :-



See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x800706BA): The RPC server is unavailable.
at NetRemoteLibrary.INetRemotePlugin.get_Name()
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.UpdateActions()
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.GoElement(NRIElemen t element)
at com.promixis.MainForm.treeView1_DoubleClick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnDoubleClick(EventAr gs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1865.39522
Win32 Version: 1.0.1865.39522
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/NR%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/NR%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.4.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/NR%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.13.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/NR%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/NR%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
Ben S
February 9th, 2005, 10:44 AM
Thanks for the awesome feedback, Rob! Let me digest these, and implement changes as required in the designer.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 10:51 AM
Are the alignment and spacing buttons supposed to work in this version?

It would be nice to have the keyboard shortcuts shown on the context menus.
I've discovered that F2 seems to bring up the properties dialog.

The NR emulator doesn't support the exit action - have to use the close box

On the plugins page the actions are shown in alphabetical order, but on the actions tab for a button they're shown in IR code order.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the awesome feedback, Rob! Let me digest these, and implement changes as required in the designer.

You're welcome.

I don't want to overwhelm you though.

Would you prefer one item per message?
avid
February 9th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Should avid's plugins show any children on the plugins tab?
Not quite yet. I had use of an early version of Designer a couple of weeks ago, but had to request some additions to the interface by which a driver describes its actions. Ben says these are in the pipeline. So until I get those, I can't produce a self-describing driver.

But beware - the preferred IR coding for many of the AvidUtils things (in particular text and drop-downs) *will change*. Actions in existing CCFs will continue to work but will not be easily editable. The actions will have new *preferred* IR codes as alternatives to the existing "legacy" codes which will be deprecated. So it will probably be necessary to delete AvidUtils actions and to re-insert them in order to get a good editing experience.

Brian
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 11:03 AM
I'm not quite clear what purpose the emulator serves.

You seem to be able to add buttons and frames using it.
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 11:12 AM
Cut (from the context menu) doesn't seem to do anything. Copy and delete works though.

Paste sort of works, but won't paste into a frame.

Paste and delete don't always refresh the tree view
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 11:20 AM
Paste and delete don't always refresh the tree view

You appear to need to delete two items to get the tree view to refresh. In the interim that last button to be deleted is still shown and can be edited in the property editor.
danward79
February 9th, 2005, 11:57 AM
Ben,

Thanks very much, I like the look of the new designer. It looks like it should be a lot easier to use.

I have just used the resizing feature, it worked well. I now have a ccf for my Dell X50v that is complete.

I have to build a new ccf for it thou so, am looking forward to trying out the designer proper then. Matbe I find something Rob has'nt! :wink:
Rob H
February 9th, 2005, 12:27 PM
Resizing frames - looks like this can only be done in the properties dialog at the moment. Resizing with the mouse is pretty much essential

Something else just occurred to me that could be quite useful for loops - have a setting to let the frame resize itself to fit the contents. As you change the number of repetitions and the spacing, or indeed the contents. Doesn't have to be dynamic, could just be an button on the loop properties dialog.
wilkscm
February 9th, 2005, 12:46 PM
very nice Ben i can see you have done alot of work and the look and feel are great pls keep up the work and i am sure it will be a sucess.
Jlee
February 10th, 2005, 02:42 PM
I unzipped the .zip to a folder on my desktop then clicked the .exe file and this error was displayed. Sorry if I'm being thick but should I be implementing this app some other way? I'm running XP SP2 with .net and all critical updates.
Rob H
February 10th, 2005, 02:43 PM
You need to have NR open on that machine with the CCF you want to edit.
Jlee
February 10th, 2005, 02:45 PM
Ah thanks. Ben just said that 1.0.20 needs to have been installed an run first but "The designer will start NetRemote (if not already running) in order to get a list of loaded plugins and variables.". Now I've manually opened NR it works. Cheers Rob.
Rob H
February 11th, 2005, 02:23 AM
There doesn't seem to be a way to remove an image completely from a button or frame. You appear to be able to do it by selecting an slot from the image picker, but that leads to an exception :-



System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException&#58; Specified argument was out of the range of valid values.
Parameter name&#58; index
at System.Windows.Forms.SelectedListViewItemCollectio n.get_Item&#40;Int32 index&#41;
at com.promixis.ImagePicker.button1_Click&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventAr gs mevent&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;
Rob H
February 11th, 2005, 02:26 AM
The image picker resizes all graphics to fit the slot. It shouldn't do this if the graphic is small enough to fit in the space available, and it certainly should use the same aspect ratio when resizing as all rectangular buttons end up showing as square.
Rob H
February 11th, 2005, 02:32 AM
There doesn't seem to be a way to create a colour scheme with a transparent background - and system|properties doesn't have a transparent colour.
Rob H
February 11th, 2005, 02:34 AM
When you paste an object the newly pasted object should be selected in the treeview and in the editor. At the moment it's selected in neither.
Rob H
February 11th, 2005, 02:46 AM
The top level macro group doesn't seem to be supported - NRD moved all my macro panels to the standard page group. However, at some point it didn't fix up the references so all the buttons that were aliased the macros no longer worked. I think that this may have happened when I saved the CCF since it worked okay if I just sent the CCF to NR.

If a macro group isn't supported then you need to be able to designate a page group as a macro group so that the macro template can be applied to it
Rob H
February 13th, 2005, 06:14 AM
Nobody else got anything to say about NR Designer?

Ben's been very quiet I notice - hopefully that means he's been beavering away.
danward79
February 13th, 2005, 06:23 AM
Nobody else got anything to say about NR Designer?

Ben's been very quiet I notice - hopefully that means he's been beavering away.

Trouble is everytime I go to post, you have already got there!

So I thought I would refer from posting


"I was going to say that!"

:D :lol:
Rob H
February 13th, 2005, 06:33 AM
:lol:
mikeythemikey
February 14th, 2005, 12:15 PM
Any chance of getting this? I have sent you a PM. My new x50 arrived today and I am itching to build a ccf ;)
rjsmith0
February 14th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Same here. I have been holding off starting my ccf until it was available. I am really interested in the resizing capabilities since I need my CCF for both the x50 and x50v. I don't mind If it is only alpha, I would just like to get something started.

thanks!


Any chance of getting this? I have sent you a PM. My new x50 arrived today and I am itching to build a ccf ;)
Ben S
February 15th, 2005, 04:09 PM
I've been beavering away on a few things. I took my wife on a long weekend trip and just returned, so I'll be correcting more of these issues over the next few days and releasing another version.

Rob - thanks again! This is a great list that I should be able to work directly against!
Rob H
February 15th, 2005, 05:47 PM
I thought you'd been rather quiet lately, Ben.

Hope you had a good break. Looking forward to a new version.
Ben S
February 19th, 2005, 08:09 AM
Hi folks -
Just wanted to let you all know that you should be receiving a new version by EOD tomorrow. I've fixed almost all of the issues above, and am adding button alias support (as well as a few other things).

Thanks!
Rob H
February 19th, 2005, 08:12 AM
Good to hear!
danward79
February 19th, 2005, 08:16 AM
Nice work ben
avid
February 19th, 2005, 10:22 AM
I've fixed almost all of the issues above, and am adding button alias support (as well as a few other things).!
And the driver registration changes?

Brian
Ben S
February 19th, 2005, 02:13 PM
Absolutely. They will be there too.
mikeythemikey
February 19th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Great news :)
Ben S
February 20th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Hi folks - Sorry for this, but I need to clean up 2 remaining issues before releasing another alpha, and I wasn't able to finish up to release this evening.
Jlee
February 21st, 2005, 12:24 AM
Thanks from me too Rob!

I'd planned on do a load of testing with the new designer but have found myself way too busy with work this last 2 weeks. I think that all the regulars on this forum owe you a big thank you for the work you've done to help Ben with this. Cheers.
Rob H
February 21st, 2005, 12:38 AM
Gosh, thanks!
avid
February 21st, 2005, 12:38 AM
I think that all the regulars on this forum owe you a big thank you for the work you've done to help Ben with this
I completely agree with this. Thanks Rob

Brian
danward79
February 21st, 2005, 06:38 AM
hurrah
Mastiff
February 21st, 2005, 09:38 AM
Me too, both with that and the LDJ and other LUA stuff! :D
Ben S
February 22nd, 2005, 07:09 PM
Hello everyone!
You should have just received an e-mail from me regarding the 0.2 beta of the designer. If you have e-mailed me your request to beta test and you didn't receive an e-mail from me, please contact me again.

I've attached the change history here for all the world to enjoy!
avid
February 22nd, 2005, 11:16 PM
Thank Ben - I'll give it a go.

Questions answered
01) Should avid's plugins show any children on the plugins tab?
- Yes, Avid needs some changes on my side before he fully implements his descriptions.
Can you send be a brief description of the changes to the XML description encoding and its new attributes? Doing this change (and getting designable drivers distributed) is top of my list.

Thanks

Brian
avid
February 22nd, 2005, 11:49 PM
On my very first click of the "Action Designer" button [OK - it was on a New element, so might not make much sense], I got:
************** Exception Text **************
System.InvalidCastException&#58; Specified cast is not valid.
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.button1_Click&#40;Objec t sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventAr gs mevent&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;
:(

Brian
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:15 AM
The mouse wheel only scrolls the tree view/properties etc and not the editor which is a bit unintuitive when the mouse is over the editor.


This is still the case.


Edit: Oops, should have read the change history
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:21 AM
The various property dialogs only have OK buttons - there should be a cancel button.

Esc works to close the dialog though, but I get a beep when it does.

The Element dialog doesn't have a close box.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:26 AM
Selecting an item in the editor should select the corresponding item in the tree view.

This almost works, but only if the tree view is showing the element, ie the containing frame is already expanded. In fact, the corresponding item in the tree view has to be visible - if it's off the top or bottom of the File Navigation pane then the selection doesn't change either.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:27 AM
F2 to select the properties for the current element only works when the File Navigation pane is displayed. If e.g. the plugins pane is showing then F2 does nothing.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:34 AM
Image Picker:

Much better. What's the sort order used here? Would be good to have images sorted by size perhaps?

The Remove Image button seems to be anchored to the right hand side of the window - if you resize the window to make it narrower then the Remove Image button disappears off the left hand side.

Escape doesn't close the dialog - although it's nice to see that there is a Cancel button here :)
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:47 AM
SchemePicker

1) Dialog title needs a space :)

2) The background colour button displays the dialog for both left and right mouse clicks. When the dialog closes the Set Transparent context comes up.
This seems a bit strange. Might be better to have the dialog only appear for a left mouse click and the context menu for a right mouse click

3) White text on a transparent background - not surprisingly this shows as completely blank in the scheme list :) Might be a good idea to show the background as a graphic or maybe a gradient. Either that or show the scheme name in conventional colours and then have a sample in the chosen colours.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:26 AM
Resizing frames - this is very tricky to do. It does work, but the mouse cursor should change to a suitable one. Either that or draggable handles in the corners and middle of each side would be good.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:37 AM
I love the action designer - especially the link through to Girder - that's going to make life so much simpler.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:38 AM
Image display in the Element dialog - should probably scale down the image to fit.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:44 AM
Selection frame:

If you have a button that is covered by another button then the selection frame for the button at the back is obscured by the button in front. This can make it hard to see the selection. I noticed this particularly in my LDJ CCF which uses an alpha transparent picture frame which overlays the cover image. The non-transparent part completely covers the red selection frame.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:46 AM
'Bring forward' doesn't appear to do anything. The other Z-order commands work fine.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:48 AM
'Cut' doesn't seem to do anything - using any of the 4 methods of activating it.

Edit: Later...

That's not quite true, it just doesn't work the way I'd expected. It seems to be a 'pending' cut, ie it only moves when you paste it.

Some sort of visual indication of this would help, e.g. ghosting the element

Edit: Later...

Cut followed by paste on the same panel leaves 'ghosts' of the original elements in the tree view
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:50 AM
The Delete key doesn't seem to work as a shortcut for the delete command. Works from the context menu though.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 03:02 AM
Undo doesn't seem to work for Z-Order actions
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 03:02 AM
Ctrl-V doesn't paste
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 03:15 AM
Delete doesn't work for a page (from the context menu)
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 03:42 AM
Font selection - there's a bit of weirdness here. If you select one of the following point sizes :- 10, 16, 22, 28 then the Font shown in the Element dialog is one pt less ie 9, 15, 21 and 27. It works as you'd expect for all other point sizes.

You probably shouldn't be able to select other fonts and non-standard sizes yet, ie until there's a new CCF format.
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 03:44 AM
If you open the image picker for a button that has no images and immediately hit the OK button you get an exception


System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException&#58; Specified argument was out of the range of valid values.
Parameter name&#58; index
at System.Windows.Forms.SelectedListViewItemCollectio n.get_Item&#40;Int32 index&#41;
at com.promixis.ImagePicker.button1_Click&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
mikeythemikey
February 23rd, 2005, 03:45 AM
Anyone else getting winding type fonts in the menus? is the builder using a certain font?
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 04:11 AM
You mean WingDing? Not here, no - menus look fine to me
mikeythemikey
February 23rd, 2005, 12:05 PM
Here ya go..
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 12:09 PM
Looks to me as though it hasn't found Pronto.ttf and is substituting another Symbol font.

Is Pronto.ttf in your Windows\fonts directory?
danward79
February 23rd, 2005, 12:46 PM
I wish mine did that!

When I click save I get an exception error

this is after I make changes, and click save, it does the same for file and save.


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.NRI.WriteCCF(String file)
at com.promixis.MainForm.SaveToFile(String filename)
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuItem7_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate()
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemActivate(ToolbarItemBase item)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemRelease(ToolbarItemBase item, Point position)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1879.38915
Win32 Version: 1.0.1879.38915
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.4.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.13.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.




however, if I don't make any changes and click save I get no error
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:05 PM
Interesting - I don't get that. The save appears to work correctly, but I do get the following message (centred on NetRemote).



This action cannot be completed because the other program is busy. Choose 'Switch To' to activate the busy program and correct the problem.


The dialog is titled 'Server Busy'

Pressing the 'Switch To...' button brings up the Windows Start menu. The Retry button lets it complete but doesn't result in the Windows Start menu.
Similarly, giving focus to NR and then back to NRD gets rid of the dialog.

Also, the mouse cursor doesn't change to a busy cursor for several seconds.

I moved the NetRemote window and the dialog still comes up centred over it.
danward79
February 23rd, 2005, 01:10 PM
I just tried opening my ccf in pronto and it is empty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

NR will not load either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:18 PM
I hope you had a backup!

How big is the CCF now?
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:20 PM
Save As:

This should really make a copy of the associated Lua file.

Come to think of it, it would be useful to be able to edit the associated Lua within NRD.
danward79
February 23rd, 2005, 01:49 PM
I hope you had a backup!

How big is the CCF now? the files are still 477K, so it looks like they have just been corrupted.

Ben! Any ideas?
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 01:54 PM
I suspect Ben may want to take a look at that CCF
Ben S
February 23rd, 2005, 02:18 PM
Yes sir! Please send it my way!
Rob H
February 23rd, 2005, 02:34 PM
:)
danward79
February 23rd, 2005, 02:57 PM
On it's way
Ben S
February 23rd, 2005, 07:14 PM
Can you send be a brief description of the changes to the XML description encoding and its new attributes? Doing this change (and getting designable drivers distributed) is top of my list.

Sorry, this response was from before I made the changes to support what we talked about.

The xml additions are "delimiter" and "comment_delimiter". It will use the delimiter value to delim between params, and "comment_delimiter" to be able to add/keep a comment at the end of the whole action. Everything else should work as is.
avid
February 24th, 2005, 12:12 AM
The xml additions are "delimiter" and "comment_delimiter". It will use the delimiter value to delim between params, and "comment_delimiter" to be able to add/keep a comment at the end of the whole action. Everything else should work as is.
Thanks Ben,

The embedded text and separator stuff seem to work fine.

A couple of issues:

1) Are you planning to add "default" and "optional" attributes as we discussed earlier? Without "default" the interface is a bit clumsy as the text description has to mention the default value to help the poor designer user. Without "optional", existing CCFs are more difficult to parse. A parsing rule that would work would be "if the end of the string is reached and only optional parameters are left, then the parse is successful, with the optional parameters having default values". Ideally, you would also omit from the IR string all trailing optional parameters which have default values.

2) Bit field parameters are not parsed to initialize the check boxes - they all start out unchecked.

I attach a "work in progress" PC/Win32 AvidUtils driver to experiment with. Beware that the IR encodings for strings and drop-down are new. "Legacy" codes in existng CCFs continue to work in NR but can't be properly edited with Designer.

Brian
Ben S
February 24th, 2005, 03:22 AM
1) Are you planning to add "default" and "optional" attributes as we discussed earlier?

Yes, sorry. "optional" is there (value of 1 = optional) on a parameter. I'll add default now. Optional was also in the past rev so forgot to mention it.

My thought with default is to only use the default on first action create. If the IR code (current) doesn't have values, then to leave them blank.



2) Bit field parameters are not parsed to initialize the check boxes - they all start out unchecked.

Ah! This makes sense! I'll fix ASAP. Thanks for the heads up.
avid
February 24th, 2005, 03:29 AM
My thought with default is to only use the default on first action create. If the IR code (current) doesn't have values, then to leave them blank
This makes sense, but it would be nice if it also interacted "sensibly" with "optional", so that if an optional value is not there, then the dialog shows the default value.

Brian
avid
February 24th, 2005, 07:27 AM
Another drawing problem and a suggestion:

When my menu buttons use Pronto graphic characters (e.g. for Zoom transport), the tree display gets *some* of them right, but for most of them just displays a lacuna (a litle square box character).

And should the order of driver actions displayed in the action designer tree be specified by the order they were registered in the driver, instead of being alphabetical? That way, the driver could group related things together.

Brian
mikeythemikey
February 24th, 2005, 10:52 AM
can someone attach the pronto font to this thread for me..
Jlee
February 24th, 2005, 10:58 AM
can someone attach the pronto font to this thread for me..
mikeythemikey
February 24th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Cheers.. still getting it though..
Ben S
February 27th, 2005, 05:57 AM
You put it in Windows\Fonts? Did you "install" it? (I think you have to right-click and do install or something?). Additionally you can put it in the same directory as the designer, I believe.

Dan - I was able to successfully open, save, and reopen in NetRemote, so perhaps it was a one-time fluke? Can you try again?

All - I'm working on some of the deeper issues here, and you should see a release in the next week with corrections.

Thanks again for all the useful feedback, Rob.

Anyone successfully designing a CCF using this, yet?
danward79
February 27th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Dan - I was able to successfully open, save, and reopen in NetRemote, so perhaps it was a one-time fluke? Can you try again?



Ben, I can't seem to get it to do it again either. Strange the only thing I have done since is reboot!

Ohwell
danward79
February 27th, 2005, 09:15 AM
Just did it again!

I resized the ccf from 240 x 320 to 480 x 640, then saved it as a different name and bang, I get this!


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.NRI.WriteCCF(String file)
at com.promixis.MainForm.SaveToFile(String filename)
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuItem14_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate()
at TD.SandBar.o.b(TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show()
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnItemPush(ToolbarItemBase item, Point position)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1879.38915
Win32 Version: 1.0.1879.38915
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.4.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.13.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.


It also corrupted the ccf, so it won't load!..... Lucky I backed it up, this time! :wink:
danward79
February 27th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Any chance of getting the templates to show up on a editing window if you want them to. ala tonto
Rob H
February 27th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Um... they do - look for Templates in the tree view
danward79
February 27th, 2005, 02:17 PM
I see them in the tree, but what I mean is when you open a template it should show as the background on the window you are editting.
danward79
February 27th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Um... they do - look for Templates in the tree view

Does not work on my machine.

However if I right click on the device name and select properties, and choice a template I get a big red cross and an error!


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.StackOverflowException: Exception of type System.StackOverflowException was thrown.


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1879.38915
Win32 Version: 1.0.1879.38915
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.4.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.13.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dannyboy/Desktop/NRDesigner-0.2beta/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.


now eveytime I click on the red crossed window I get the above error.
Rob H
February 27th, 2005, 02:39 PM
I can confirm this - I think it might occur when the template that the device is using is completely empty
danward79
February 28th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Hi,

Would it be possible to make it so we can cut n paste from the variable list. This would make documentation writing much easier.

:D
ebariaux
March 10th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Has anybody tried the designer beta (0.2) with NR 1.0.22.0 ?
When I click on Action Designer on any button, I got the following error.


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions&#40;Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn&#41;
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions&#40;Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn&#41;
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.LoadPl uginTree&#40;&#41;
at com.promixis.Forms.ActionDesigner..ctor&#40;NRIActionG roup action_group&#41;
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.button1_Click&#40;Objec t sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventAr gs mevent&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1879.38915
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1879.38915
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.4.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.13.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging, the config file for this
application or machine &#40;machine.config&#41; must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example&#58;

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.




Thanks,
Eric.
Rob H
March 10th, 2005, 09:58 AM
Hmm.. that works fine here.
Rob H
March 12th, 2005, 08:03 AM
Found out today that you can open two or more copies of the designer at once. This really slows NetRemote down! It's a bit sluggish when you have one copy open as it is, but this was way over the top.
Ben S
March 13th, 2005, 05:22 AM
My guess is that this is related to the variables being kept real-time in the designer.

I'll test the theory, and if so, add an option to "refresh every [x] seconds, refresh realtime, or refresh on demand".

Just so you all know, I'm making a lot of changes (to support OK, Cancel) and other things. Progress is being made, and I'll have something available soon.
Rob H
March 13th, 2005, 05:28 AM
That sounds very likely, yes.
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 07:09 AM
Hi Ben

I am tring to start the designer on my new pc, and I get the following application error.


The Application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click OK to terminate the application.
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 08:03 AM
Just a thought, let me check if I have .net installed
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 12:06 PM
Ok I installed .Net1.1, just to make sure now I get a different error on startup

I have NR running, and if I try and start the designer I get...


Netremote.exe - Common Language Runtime Debugging Services

Application has generated an exception that could not be handled.

Process id=0xfd0 (4048), Thread id=0x2a4 (676).


Any ideas how I can get round this? I need to scale up some changes I made to my ccf for 480 x 640
Rob H
March 13th, 2005, 12:24 PM
Control Panel - Admin tools - Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1 Wizards

Adjust .Net Security

Make sure that My Computer and/or Local Intranet is set to Full trust
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 12:34 PM
Thanks Rob,

Now I get this!


Netremote.exe - Common Language Runtime Debugging Services

Application has generated an exception that could not be handled.

Process id=0xdec (3564), Thread id=0x310 (784).
Rob H
March 13th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Okay, it's not a trust issue then. :(

Is that with any CCF loaded in NR?

That's one for Ben probably.
Rob H
March 13th, 2005, 12:41 PM
You may need to install the .NET SDK and one of the debugging tools (cordbg or dbgclr) there may tell you where the problem is
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 12:42 PM
yep nr was loaded with a ccf
Rob H
March 13th, 2005, 12:46 PM
I meant - does it matter which CCF is loaded?
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 01:02 PM
the ccf does not seem to matter I tried several
Rob H
March 13th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Did you try the debuggers in the .NET SDK - you might have missed my message earlier.
danward79
March 13th, 2005, 01:37 PM
I will have to try and download that tomorrow, I did try debugviewer, and nothing showed
danward79
March 21st, 2005, 11:28 AM
I have tried as rob suggested however this did not show anything that would lead me to a conclusion.

Does anyone have any ideas?
Ben S
March 21st, 2005, 07:10 PM
Fresh out of ideas, but as I said in email, I'll add some logging to the bootup code.

I'll be creating an installer for the latest version to release to you guys tomorrow by end of day.
danward79
March 21st, 2005, 10:03 PM
Thanks Ben
zones
March 24th, 2005, 11:20 AM
Thanks for the aplha version ben,

I just installed it and I have a problem with the Navigation font it seem to be windings or similar. See attached screenshot.
danward79
March 24th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Hi Ben,

Guess what it don't start! using the latest version 24th March. Did you enable the logging?
zones
March 24th, 2005, 11:36 AM
On closing the options dialogue by clicking ok I got a error message (See attached file). This happens if you make no changes and if you change a setting.

Cheers
Geoff
Rob H
March 24th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Thanks for the aplha version ben,

I just installed it and I have a problem with the Navigation font it seem to be windings or similar. See attached screenshot.

You need to install Pronto.ttf in windows\fonts
zones
March 24th, 2005, 11:40 AM
Thanks Rob, I can see thing clearly now, although it was fun learn to read windigs.

Cheers
Geoff
Ben S
March 24th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Guess what it don't start! using the latest version 24th March. Did you enable the logging?

Yes, you should have a "Designer.log" in the startup directory. Can you open that up and send it to me?
danward79
March 24th, 2005, 12:00 PM
No designer.log is present in the directory, I have tried several times, but it never gets generated.
danward79
March 24th, 2005, 12:03 PM
I have tried another .net appication Mediaportal, it starts ok :(
danward79
March 24th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Ben,

Would it be useful for you if I had a stack trace? If so how do I do one! :D

Anything to get round this!
Rob H
March 26th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Updating variable bug - just tried to update NR variables from the menu and got the following error :-


Item has already been added. Key in dictionary&#58; "NRFULLVERSION"
Key being added&#58; "NRFULLVERSION"

and the following stack trace


System.ArgumentException&#58; Item has already been added. Key in dictionary&#58; "NRFULLVERSION" Key being added&#58; "NRFULLVERSION"
at System.Collections.Hashtable.Insert&#40;Object key, Object nvalue, Boolean add&#41;
at System.Collections.Hashtable.Add&#40;Object key, Object value&#41;
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuButtonItemUpdateVars_Act ivate&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.o.b&#40;TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnItemPush&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1909.19167
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1909.19167
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.4.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.13.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Rob H
March 26th, 2005, 02:17 AM
Weird drag and drop behaviour

Open a panel with some objects.

Select one of the objects in the File Navigator - now drag the object from the navigator over the editing window. As soon as the mouse cursor hits the edge of the editing window the selected object will move - quite possibly out of the window completely.

After you've done this - and probably hit Ctrl-Z to undo, any frames in the current panel will lose their resize handles. Switching to another panel and back again will restore them
Rob H
March 26th, 2005, 02:23 AM
It's not possible to create a multiline button label with embedded carriage returns since the Element Name is a single line edit control

Multiline button labels with embedded CRs are not drawn correctly in the editor. Using Middle Center alignment only the last line is drawn centred, the first line is left aligned.
Rob H
March 26th, 2005, 02:26 AM
The 'Show Name' checkbox in the Element editor isn't reflected correctly on the corresponding button. This is the case even when you OK the dialog. It's not until you click on the button that it is repainted appropriately.

The same goes for the font size.
Rob H
March 26th, 2005, 02:34 AM
There's no way to select the parent of the current object other than from the file navigator. A keyboard shortcut would be handy here.

Actually, that isn't strictly true - if the file navigator has focuse then cursor left will select the parent.

Even worse, if you have two panels open and use the mouse to change to another panel then the cursor keys switch between open panels!

This isn't exactly ideal, or indeed consistent.

It would be better IMO if the cursor keys could be used to move the selected object in pixel increments.
danward79
March 26th, 2005, 10:50 AM
Rob,

How did you do that stack trace?
Rob H
March 26th, 2005, 11:04 AM
That's just a stack trace from the error dialog in NR Designer. Won't help with your problem as you're not even getting that far :(
Ben S
March 26th, 2005, 12:34 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Rob. I may have to change the way I'm using MDI, as it's stealing a lot of the events (arrow keys and such).

Dan - I'm just not sure how to help here. I know you've done this before, but can you confirm that you have NetRemote already running (this shouldn't be necessary, but helps sometimes) and that NetRemote is running fine? Have you tried this on other machines with or without success?
danward79
March 27th, 2005, 06:49 AM
Dan - I'm just not sure how to help here. I know you've done this before, but can you confirm that you have NetRemote already running (this shouldn't be necessary, but helps sometimes) and that NetRemote is running fine? Have you tried this on other machines with or without success?

Ok I have confirmed NR is running and working and I get the same error. I tried this with several ccf's

I also tried it on my htpc with the same ccf's and it works fine.

I have tried alsorts, searched the net etc, it is just not working!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
avid
March 28th, 2005, 02:37 AM
Sorry Ben,

I still can't get Designer to accept a CCF file containing AvidUtils text actions. I can create an action and write out the CCF. But when I come to re-open the CCF, the action reverts to a plain IR code that I can do nothing with. I have attached a distribution with the DLLs, the source (actions registrations are at the end) up-to-date documentation of the action encoding and a sample CCF.

Any ideas? Obviously I want to get a version of AvidUtils that will work - before you release a public beta.

Brian
Ben S
March 28th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Dan - If your HTPC runs it fine but your main PC doesn't (with the same files, it sounds like perhaps a .NET reinstall is required?

Brian - I'll download the plugin and give it a run tomorrow morning. Sorry about the troubles.
danward79
March 29th, 2005, 09:49 AM
Ok, I will try it again, anyone got a link to a prefered version of .net?
ebariaux
March 29th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Dan,

I got the same sort of issue but more "localized".
On the HTPC, everything is working OK in the designer.
On my dev laptop, the designer works OK but crashes as soon as I want to edit the actions associated with a button.
On the laptop, I had .Net 1.0 with fix, 1.1 with fix and 2.0Beta.
I uninstalled 2.0Beta but this did not change anything.

I'll take a look on the HTPC tomorrow to check what's installed there.
danward79
March 29th, 2005, 12:02 PM
You could have a point there, actually, I think the HTPC has 1.0 on it... I will check too later
danward79
March 29th, 2005, 01:26 PM
It does not like a 1.0 .net install!

My HTPC has 1.1
ebariaux
March 30th, 2005, 04:25 AM
Indeed, I checked and my HTPC only has the 1.1 installed.
Now, I'm a bit afraid to just remove the .Net 1.0 from my laptop as some stuff might depend on it.
When I got a bit more time, I'll take a complete disc image, remove .Net 1.0 and test NRDesigner there.
danward79
March 31st, 2005, 10:51 AM
Reinstalling .net 1.0 then .net 1.1 made absolutely no difference........ :cry:
Ben S
April 1st, 2005, 07:27 PM
I still can't get Designer to accept a CCF file containing AvidUtils text actions.

You specifically mean the text actions, right? I see that they're not loading, but want to make sure everything else is working.

I'm digging in now to figure out why they're not coming in appropriately, though.
avid
April 1st, 2005, 11:00 PM
I still can't get Designer to accept a CCF file containing AvidUtils text actions.

You specifically mean the text actions, right? I see that they're not loading, but want to make sure everything else is working.

I'm digging in now to figure out why they're not coming in appropriately, though.
Thanks Ben,

Yes - I specifically mean the text actions. My guess is it is because these actions have a couple of rarely used optional parameters, which are (correctly I believe) omitted when the IR code is constructed, but they seem to prevent the code then being correctly parsed.

Brian
Ben S
April 2nd, 2005, 05:41 AM
Reinstalling .net 1.0 then .net 1.1 made absolutely no difference........ :cry:

Hi Dan - I took your post above to mean that you had this working.

The designer only needs .NET 1.1, but the installer should download and install that if you need it.

Is it possible that you're running this off of a network drive, or some other area where .NET is saying it's not "safe"?
danward79
April 2nd, 2005, 07:08 AM
Hi Ben,

It is all running of my c: drive, I am lost. Other .net apps work such as mediaportal no problems.

I have tried it will the designer running in the root or c: drive and on the desktop, neither made a difference.

What are the requirements from windows for the designer, i.e. which services, etc?
Ben S
April 2nd, 2005, 07:37 AM
Yes - I specifically mean the text actions. My guess is it is because these actions have a couple of rarely used optional parameters, which are (correctly I believe) omitted when the IR code is constructed, but they seem to prevent the code then being correctly parsed.

I found the problem! Parameters from the PluginAction object are int (32 bit), but the designer stores them like the IR code, which is a short (16 bit). So it was comparing 0xFFFF (short = -1) to 0x0000FFFF (int = 65535). Casting properly to a short solved it. Everything looks great now!
ebariaux
April 2nd, 2005, 07:45 AM
Following up from above, I did the test of uninstalling .Net 1.0 from my laptop and it does not change anything. Each time I go in the action designer (e.g. from a button), NRDesigner crashes.
avid
April 2nd, 2005, 08:31 AM
Yes - I specifically mean the text actions. My guess is it is because these actions have a couple of rarely used optional parameters, which are (correctly I believe) omitted when the IR code is constructed, but they seem to prevent the code then being correctly parsed.

I found the problem! Parameters from the PluginAction object are int (32 bit), but the designer stores them like the IR code, which is a short (16 bit). So it was comparing 0xFFFF (short = -1) to 0x0000FFFF (int = 65535). Casting properly to a short solved it. Everything looks great now!
Great - Thanks Ben. When's the next Alpha?

Also, what did you think of the earlier idea of presenting the actions in driver-specified order (order of registration) instead of alphabetically?

Brian
danward79
April 2nd, 2005, 10:20 AM
Hi Ben,

I get no usable error or error log from that. :(

I don't think it is even getting that far, Rob suggested I try NTRegMonitor and NTFileMonitor

They gave some output, which I attach here. I notice that some keys are returning as not found as are some files, any ideas?
danward79
April 2nd, 2005, 11:12 AM
Hi Ben,

Thanks for that version it works now!

I will get stuck in to the updating of my ccf now!

I am overthemoon

:D :D :D :D :) :) :) :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P :wink: :wink: :wink:
danward79
April 3rd, 2005, 11:52 AM
Ben,

Getting the following error


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions(Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll)
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions(Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll)
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.LoadPl uginTree()
at com.promixis.Forms.ActionDesigner..ctor(NRIActionG roup action_group)
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.button1_Click(Objec t sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventAr gs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1918.24832
Win32 Version: 1.0.1918.24832
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.4.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.13.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.

If I double click on an element then select action designer I get it everytime
danward79
April 3rd, 2005, 12:02 PM
Hi Ben,

Sorry I got another error, when I hit the delete button in the in the ID Tag box, in the element dialog
danward79
April 3rd, 2005, 12:11 PM
I got another

I get this when I try and scroll thru the imagepicker.


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: Invalid parameter used.
at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height, PixelFormat format)
at com.promixis.Controls.OwnerDrawnImagePicklist.Draw Item(Graphics g, Int32 index)
at OwnerDrawnListView.OwnerDrawnListView.ProcessListC ustomDraw(Message& m)
at OwnerDrawnListView.OwnerDrawnListView.WndProc(Mess age& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1918.24832
Win32 Version: 1.0.1918.24832
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.4.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.4.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.13.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.13.1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
danward79
April 3rd, 2005, 02:45 PM
Sorry about this Ben!

I am still having problems with ccf's being corrupted, when I save a change, I then get an error and I can choose continue or quit, either way I end up with a ccf that is unusable
Ben S
April 3rd, 2005, 03:59 PM
Hi Dan - Is it any save, or just when changing the resolution?

Regarding image picker : Did you add any images, or just use what came with your ccf? Is this still the ccf you send me last?
danward79
April 4th, 2005, 02:16 AM
Hi Dan - Is it any save, or just when changing the resolution?

Regarding image picker : Did you add any images, or just use what came with your ccf? Is this still the ccf you send me last?

Hi Ben,

It is anysave.

No I did not add any images, just what was in the ccf
Ben S
April 4th, 2005, 07:54 PM
And it's the ccf you sent me previously, or the one that is available via download from here?
danward79
April 4th, 2005, 09:56 PM
The last ccf I sent you was corrupt and un-usable. It has corrupted all my ccf's you can download them here
Ben S
April 5th, 2005, 04:25 AM
Hi Dan -
Using the ccf downloadable from here, I reproduced the bug during image selection and resolved it.

I can save this image (without error) and open it again in NetRemote. Is there something else I should be after opening to check?
danward79
April 5th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Hi Ben,

At work right now, but off hand I remember if you try setting the template for a page and then try saving it should cause a problem.

If not when I get home I will do a step by step

Thanks
danward79
April 14th, 2005, 11:33 AM
Hi Ben,

When do you plan for another release?
jwilson56
April 14th, 2005, 12:55 PM
Has anyone noticed that their fonts were sized differently when loaded into the new editor? In Tonto and Netremote the fonts for Now Playing are fine but when I load it into the new editor they are all a bit larger which messes up the formatting.

John
Ben S
April 14th, 2005, 03:34 PM
Dan - Soon, I have 1 thing I want to wrap up, then it will be out (this weekend, hopefully).

John - I think I may have found the issue. I'm going to download your interface and see if it looks correct.
Rob H
April 17th, 2005, 09:12 AM
I've just had what appears to be the same problem as Dan when saving a CCF.

It's a very simple CCF with two normal buttons and a progress bar. It shows up completely blank in Tonto and NR Designer, but it causes NR itself to start consuming memory and CPU (it got up to 520Mb or so before I killed it).
Ben S
April 17th, 2005, 09:15 AM
Thanks Rob - I'll take a look right now.
danward79
April 17th, 2005, 09:39 AM
I've just had what appears to be the same problem as Dan when saving a CCF.

It's a very simple CCF with two normal buttons and a progress bar. It shows up completely blank in Tonto and NR Designer, but it causes NR itself to start consuming memory and CPU (it got up to 520Mb or so before I killed it).

Wow, It is not just me!.... :D :D :D

I was starting to get a complex!
Ben S
April 17th, 2005, 10:47 AM
I've just had what appears to be the same problem as Dan when saving a CCF.

Did this error out when saving? Do you have a copy of this saved, before it became this?
Rob H
April 17th, 2005, 10:56 AM
No error I'm afraid.

It appeared to save normally.

It was pretty similar to the other progress bar example that I uploaded earlier, but was entirely created in the Designer from scratch.
Ben S
April 17th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Okay, the "error" is fixed in NetRemote (NetRemote expected at least a home device).

However now we have three programs (Tonto, Designer, NetRemote) that think the file is "empty".

Did you create this file "from scratch"?
Rob H
April 17th, 2005, 11:05 AM
Yes, entirely from scratch - using File|New

Incidentally, that left the title bar showing the name of the previously loaded file, rather than changing it to untitled.
Ben S
April 17th, 2005, 06:16 PM
Okay, I've fixed the issue making the save not work properly for a new file, and also fixed the issue with the title not changing on new.

Not sure if this is the problem you were having, though, Dan.
Rob H
April 18th, 2005, 08:19 AM
0.5beta

Edit actions from the Navigation context menu gives the following error


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions&#40;Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll&#41;
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions&#40;Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll&#41;
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.LoadPl uginTree&#40;&#41;
at com.promixis.Forms.ActionDesigner..ctor&#40;NRIActionG roup action_group&#41;
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuButtonItemActions_Activa te&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.j.b&#40;TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.a&#40;Control A_0, Point A_1, Boolean A_2&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;Control control, Point position&#41;
at com.promixis.MainForm.treeView1_MouseUp&#40;Object sender, MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventA rgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WmNotify&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1933.29169
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1933.29169
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.6.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.6.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version&#58; 1.1.2.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.2.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging, the config file for this
application or machine &#40;machine.config&#41; must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example&#58;

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
jwilson56
April 18th, 2005, 08:41 AM
Ben I sent you my CCF via email to test those font problems out.

John
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 08:42 AM
You always start with the bad news. :)

Anything good in this version?

All - Rob and Dan are giving me a quick run through before I pass it off to everyone to test at a larger scale. Since Rob finds all the good stuff, I wanted his feedback first.

Thanks!
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 08:44 AM
Ben I sent you my CCF via email to test those font problems out.

John

Great, thanks John. I'll take a look this afternoon.
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 08:47 AM
com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions(Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll)


Can you send me (all of) the gml's loaded into Girder 3 and 4? It's barfing on one of them.
Rob H
April 18th, 2005, 09:20 AM
You should have a PM
avid
April 18th, 2005, 12:38 PM
Hi Ben,

The layout in Designer (especially cropping/wrapping) differs from that in NR and Tonto. See the attached screen shots. The "DVD" at the top left is a simple text frame. It appears fine in Tonto, but is cropped by Designer.

Any ideas?

Brian
danward79
April 18th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Hi Ben,

I tried to change the device template (just add a coloured frame), then I changed the home page properties "Page Template" to deviceTemplate, then saved via the button on the tool bar and I got the following

I was using the progress bar ccf example you uoloaded for Rob.

The problem seems to be with the device templates if I just add buttons and a frame to a panel I do not have an issue with saving.
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 01:49 PM
The problem seems to be with the device templates if I just add buttons and a frame to a panel I do not have an issue with saving.

Yes, I finally found this one. Sorry about that, Dan. I've fixed it, and you'll get the fix soon.
danward79
April 18th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Hi Ben,

Glad you found it.

Next!

I just created a new file, via File>New. I then went to system file properties and changed the size from 240 x 320 to 480 x 640. I then went to file>save as, and tried to save as "nrdesignertest". That resulted in this error.


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuItem14_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate()
at TD.SandBar.j.b(TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show(Boolean select)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show()
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush(ToolbarItemBase item, Point position)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1933.29169
Win32 Version: 1.0.1933.29169
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.6.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.6.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.1.2.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.2.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
danward79
April 18th, 2005, 02:05 PM
And Another.

In an untitled file, if you right click system and selected edit lua, I get the following error.


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: fileName
at System.IO.FileInfo..ctor(String fileName)
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuButtonItemEditLUA_Activa te(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate()
at TD.SandBar.j.b(TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.a(Control A_0, Point A_1, Boolean A_2)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show(Control control, Point position)
at com.promixis.MainForm.treeView1_MouseUp(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseUp(MouseEventA rgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WmNotify(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version: 1.0.1933.29169
Win32 Version: 1.0.1933.29169
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version: 1.0.6.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.6.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version: 1.1.2.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.2.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version: 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version: 0.5.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version: 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version: 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Design
Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.design/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.design.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.




I don't get the same error with a file loaded.
danward79
April 18th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Got another aswell,

If you start the designer and it does not find the file that was last loaded in NR, then it hangs on the splashscreen for a Looooooooong time. :lol:
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 02:25 PM
I then went to file>save as, and tried to save as "nrdesignertest".

Found and fixed. No new files can be created! (It's trying to _help_ you by copying a lua file).


All - When posting an error generated here, can you post from **** Exception Text **** to **** Loaded Assemblies ****, but not the rest? The rest says which DLL's are loaded, but this doesn't help me as much.

So for example, Dan's text would be



************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuItem14_Click&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.j.b&#40;TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;Boolean select&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 02:30 PM
In an untitled file, if you right click system and selected edit lua, I get the following error.

Fixed. It will now tell you to save the file before editing lua, and also create a lua file to edit if you try to edit lua without a lua file existing.
Ben S
April 18th, 2005, 02:31 PM
Got another aswell,

If you start the designer and it does not find the file that was last loaded in NR, then it hangs on the splashscreen for a Looooooooong time. :lol:

Ah! What you can't see is that NetRemote is prompting you to open a file, but it's hidden behind the splash page. Isn't that convenient. I'll have to remove the TopMost on the splash.
danward79
April 18th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Excellent, Thanks Ben x 3 :)
danward79
April 19th, 2005, 10:03 PM
Another error during save Ben,

This is after modification (Adding a frame and a button) of NRproccf


************** Exception Text **************
System.IO.IOException&#58; The process cannot access the file "C&#58;\Documents and Settings\Dannyboy\My Documents\nrpro.ccf.backup" because it is being used by another process.
at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError&#40;Int32 errorCode, String str&#41;
at System.IO.File.InternalCopy&#40;String sourceFileName, String destFileName, Boolean overwrite&#41;
at com.promixis.MainForm.SaveToFile&#40;String filename&#41;
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuItem7_Click&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItem.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemRelease&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;



The msg above this says "The prcess cannot access the file "c:\.......nrpro.ccf.backup" because it is in use by another process
danward79
April 19th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Another, Sorry!

When I Make a button then go into properties and click action designer I get

"Object Referebce is not set to an instance of an object"


************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions(Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll)
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.AddGir derActions(Int32 driver_id, XmlNode node, TreeNode tn, Boolean useAll)
at com.promixis.Controls.ActionDesignerControl.LoadPl uginTree()
at com.promixis.Forms.ActionDesigner..ctor(NRIActionG roup action_group)
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.button1_Click(Objec t sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventAr gs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
Ben S
April 20th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Brian and John - as you'll see in the email you just received, I've been able to workaround the font issue.

I've also fixed the Girder issue that both Rob and Dan have had, so you should be get to go. I'll be sending the link to the full beta distro list tomorrow unless Rob or Dan find something right away.
danward79
April 20th, 2005, 10:02 PM
Hi Ben,

I can now access the action designer, cool!

I just got an error, I created a new ccf, added a button then an action to the button, clicked send to nr and I got the following

"UnSpecified"



************** Exception Text **************
System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x80004005): Unspecified error
at NetRemoteLibrary.CoNetRemoteHelperClass.LoadInterf ace(String interface_filename)
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuButtonItemSendToNetRemot e_Activate(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate()
at TD.SandBar.j.b(TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show(Boolean select)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show()
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush(ToolbarItemBase item, Point position)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)



I think it was because I had not saved as, if I save it first with a file name it works fine
danward79
April 20th, 2005, 10:05 PM
Another,

If you select real time on the update variable drop down, and click ok. I get the following.

"Must Specify valid information for parsinng in the string"



************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: Must specify valid information for parsing in the string.
at System.Enum.Parse(Type enumType, String value, Boolean ignoreCase)
at com.promixis.Forms.ConfigurationForm.button1_Click (Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventAr gs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)



I also get the same for timed
Rob H
April 21st, 2005, 03:49 AM
I get the same, but it happens even if I've made no changes to the options. The only way out of that dialog is Cancel
Promixis
April 21st, 2005, 06:57 AM
Ben, in the position box for a dialog if you make the mistake of putting a period in the box... you get an exception...
danward79
April 21st, 2005, 08:38 AM
Hi Ben,

I hit delete key and I got the following error, and the designer dropped out on me. I think it was because I had no object selected.
danward79
April 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM
Hi Ben

Any chance of adding a snap to grid option?

Also I have been trying to get the align centers to work for a single frame, but it does not have an effect, is that right?

Having said that I have just tried the same with two buttons and non of the align buttons have an effect!
danward79
April 21st, 2005, 01:16 PM
Another,

The undo button does not work for panel's! oh no!....... just joking I did not click save yet!
danward79
April 21st, 2005, 01:32 PM
Got another error, This occured when I went to overright a file, with save as.

"The process cannot access the file "C:\.......\nr 480 x 640.lua" because it is being used by another process"



************** Exception Text **************
System.IO.IOException&#58; The process cannot access the file "C&#58;\netremote ccf\nrdesignertesting\nrdemo - 480 x 640.lua" because it is being used by another process.
at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError&#40;Int32 errorCode, String str&#41;
at System.IO.File.InternalCopy&#40;String sourceFileName, String destFileName, Boolean overwrite&#41;
at com.promixis.MainForm.menuItem14_Click&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.j.b&#40;TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;Boolean select&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;
danward79
April 22nd, 2005, 12:37 AM
Ben,

What is the likelyhood of being able to open up more than one ccf at a time?

Do you have a plan to add this feature?
jwilson56
April 23rd, 2005, 08:33 AM
Ben

I have been playing around with the editor and Now Playing. Here is a list of features I hope make it back into the final editor (some of which you have mentioned yourself). Most of these were in Tonto and I came to depend on them.

Add the 'copy icons' to a right click over a button.

Add 'copy actions' to a right click over a button.

Holding down the 'CTRL key' would make copy of button or frame.

Add the X, Y , H, W numbers back along the bottom of the screen. I live by those numbers.

Add the ability for the 'arrow keys' to move the graphics around for fine tuning of the interface.

Add the ability for the graphic library viewer to let you delete ANY image. It would be useful in eliminating duplicate images. Of coarse you would have to go back and re-pick an image for any button that lost their graphics but it would be easier then trying to figure out which ones are the duplicates.

One you mentioned that would be sorely missed. The ability to have multiple CCF's open to allow cutting and pasting between them. I doubt we could live without this feature...hehehe

Now some of the features I do like (to add some balance... hehehe)

The new alignment tools (would be even better with the X, Y, W, H displayed)

The tree structure. Heck I was able to 'clean-up' my Now Playing project (frames on frame that didn't need to be that way were impossible to see in Tonto and a few hidden buttons not used). I saved 40% in the filesize after cleaning the project. Not sure why the file shrunk so much as I only found a few small buttons not used, but its nice to see the size smaller. It would be nice (if possible) if you could change the posistion of the items (up or down) within the tree so you could organize it better by grouping the buttoms and frames. The tree structure allowed me to see what needed to be 'cleaned-up' and made the job much easier and grouping them would make that even easier.

The Toggle Visibility. With all my pop-ups this was a big plus for me!

Keep up the good work.

:D

John

Oh BTW I crashed the designer a few times while doing the clean-up. I will attach the log file if it helps. Most involved renaming and moving items
jwilson56
April 25th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Bump for my edited post
danward79
April 25th, 2005, 10:50 AM
Seems a bit quiet in this thread now! :wink:
Ben S
April 25th, 2005, 03:30 PM
Thanks for the feedback, John.

We're focusing on the MediaBridge for the next week or two so that we can roll that out, and then we will refocus on getting the designer out for public beta as well as making many of the suggested changes.
jwilson56
April 25th, 2005, 04:23 PM
Well first couple crashes were not fun as it made the CCF totally corrupt and I had to redo the changes. I learned my lesson and backed up before any many changes. The editor didn't like me messing with the frames (like copying all the items from a child frame to the parent frame to get rid of the child one) and would crash. I finally used Tonto to do that work and then the new editor to clean up the rest.

John
ebariaux
April 29th, 2005, 07:49 AM
Not sure it's really the designer itself...
In the action designer, when using the "MediaBridge.Execute a protocol command" action, in the command dropdown, both X NEXT and X PREV have "Next track" as the label.

Also STOP appears 2 times in the dropdown (both as X STOP command).
ebariaux
April 29th, 2005, 07:54 AM
When resizing the Action Designer window, the cancel button stays at its current location and does not reposition correctly
jwilson56
April 29th, 2005, 09:14 AM
I can say one thing.... the new designer does not like you messing with the frames. It will crash most of the time.


Also I can't seem to be able to resize the frames with the mouse.

John
Ben S
May 1st, 2005, 06:00 AM
I found a few issues relating to deleting items that would bomb the designer when saving. I wonder if this is what's happening here?

I'm not ready to release the next version yet (I'm mid development), but it's running stable for me now (though with only one file loaded). I did 99.9% of the new music interfaces in the designer (used Tonto to cut and paste some buttons).

So multiple files is important, and will be added to the next release (coming soon).
jwilson56
May 1st, 2005, 06:52 AM
I suspect that it was was bombing for me while trying to save the file. I also have been using a combo of Tonto and the new designer to do the carpc interface. I look forward to the new release.

John
Rob H
May 4th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Renaming an open page doesn't update the open page's window title
Rob H
May 4th, 2005, 03:43 PM
When you add an image to the image picker it leaves the image file locked
Rob H
May 5th, 2005, 03:34 AM
Colour scheme names aren't being saved (even between invocations of the scheme dialog)
Rob H
May 5th, 2005, 06:02 AM
Weirdness with pasting buttons onto frames.

If you select a frame, and paste some buttons onto it, the designer seems to think that the frame owns the button, but NR and Tonto don't!

See the attached CCF which has a looped frame which apparently owns two buttons. However the buttons are not replicated.

Ah, just worked out what's going on - you can of course only have one object in a looped frame. Perhaps a warning might be helpful, or even some way of creating a frame for a set of objects (like the group function in Tonto).
Rob H
May 5th, 2005, 08:06 AM
I was trying to save my CCF and something caused NR to crash (no log I'm afraid).

As a consequence of this NRD couldn't save the file - complaining about no RPC Server.

Restarting NR didn't help.

Why does NRD need NR to save a CCF? If it really does need NR then it has to be able to reconnect if a new instance of NR is started.
Ben S
May 8th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Hi Rob - The designer "auto-reloads" the interface file if you're designing the ccf that is "loaded" (perhaps it should prompt whether you want to do this or not), and you're right it should get past this bump (forcing NetRemote to restart if necessary).

We're converting the designer over to use multiple files, so we'll fix this as part of that change.

Yes, the problem with scheme names is that they don't exist in the interface file (so it really should be hidden/disabled until the new file format is available).
jwilson56
May 12th, 2005, 04:06 AM
Not sure if this was posted yet but when I tried to change the font color on one frame label it changed all the lables to that color.

John
Ben S
May 17th, 2005, 06:32 PM
John - this is intentional. If you want to change just that one, you need to create a new "scheme" and change it's color.

The idea being that if you want to change all frame colors, and they share a "scheme" you can change them all in one swoop.
Aaron
June 17th, 2005, 06:14 PM
I'm having two problems immediately...

1) when I go to delete a screen, approx 30% of the time it deletes the entire device... yes, I'm positive the screen is highlighted.

2) When I try to 'Save' or ' Save as' my CCF I get an error message. See attached file JPG. This only happens with my CCF, not others.
avid
June 17th, 2005, 11:25 PM
The text for a LUA action is truncated. See picture.

Brian
avid
June 17th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Hi Ben,

In most apps, I find I heavily use context menus. And I really miss these in Designer. So I would love to see Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete, Insert action, etc in all places in the tree (and in the panel UI) where it could be appropriate. Also, the properties box that appears on double click should also be accessible from the context menu.

Brian
avid
June 17th, 2005, 11:36 PM
A crash when doing Paste of a Cut frame:

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.Controls.NRIEditorControl.refreshTree &#40;TreeNode tn&#41;
at com.promixis.Controls.NRIEditorControl.HandleCopyC utPaste&#40;Object sender, CopyCutPaste action&#41;
at com.promixis.Forms.NRIEditorForm.menuButtonItemPas te_Activate&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItem.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemRelease&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;

This happens if I leave the cut object selected. It does not crash if I click on the panel. I also find it strange after a cut that the object handles are still displayed.

Brian
avid
June 17th, 2005, 11:45 PM
If I Cut or Copy a button or frame, when I paste it in the same or different panel, the pasted object is offset by a few pixels down and to the right. So I can't trivially paste an object into the same place on a number of panels.

This is made worse by the lack of a "snap-to" grid. In Tonto, I use a 5 pixel grid for alignment, which makes it very quick to line up buttons by eye.

Brian
avid
June 17th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Having opened a panel, ! get a tabbed entry on the right of the splitter. But I can't then close it to remove the tab (e.g. when I think I have finished with that panel). I would expect one ot more of Ctrl-F4, menu File/Close. context menu Close on the tab.

Brian
avid
June 18th, 2005, 12:01 AM
My CCF often has a number of buttons that do the same thing - on the same or different panels. So a Copy Actions & Paste Actions (on the tree or UI display) would help a lot. I use these often in Tonto.

Brian
Ben S
June 19th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Thanks guys - I'll look into these right away.

Aaron - Can you send me the ccf that is having problems?
Aaron
June 19th, 2005, 02:30 PM
will do...
Ben S
June 20th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Thanks Aaron - I found the problem, relating to either a key alias, a device alias, or a timer (not sure which), which are not yet supported.
Aaron
June 20th, 2005, 08:44 PM
Cool, I'll wait for the next version then.
Aaron
June 20th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Well I tried to build a basic CCF from my current one... little crashes all the time.

here's one when changing colors...


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.SchemePicker.label2_MouseUp&#40;Object sender, MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventA rgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Label.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version&#58; 0.7.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.7.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version&#58; 1.1.3.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.3.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.6.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.6.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------
Kennedy.ManagedHooks
Assembly Version&#58; 1.2.0.10
Win32 Version&#58; 1.2.0.10
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Kennedy.ManagedHooks.DLL
----------------------------------------
ColorChooserControl
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1994.33568
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1994.33568
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ColorChooserControl.DLL
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging, the config file for this
application or machine &#40;machine.config&#41; must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example&#58;

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
Aaron
June 20th, 2005, 10:46 PM
another one... when I delete a button it still "thinks" it is there. Thus it will allow me to choose a button that is visibly deleted (both on the screen and in the tree). It will allow me to move it around and delete it again.... forever.

When I double-click it... boom, crash.


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.textBox1_TextChange d&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged&#40;EventAr gs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text&#40;String value&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text&#40;String value&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text&#40;String value&#41;
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.GoElement&#40;NRIElemen t element&#41;
at com.promixis.Controls.RenderControl.contextPropert ies_Click&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnDoubleClick&#40;EventAr gs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc&#40;Mes sage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc&#40;Mess age& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.UserControl.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version&#58; 0.7.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.7.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version&#58; 1.1.3.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.3.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.6.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.6.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------
Kennedy.ManagedHooks
Assembly Version&#58; 1.2.0.10
Win32 Version&#58; 1.2.0.10
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Kennedy.ManagedHooks.DLL
----------------------------------------
ColorChooserControl
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1994.33568
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1994.33568
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ColorChooserControl.DLL
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging, the config file for this
application or machine &#40;machine.config&#41; must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example&#58;

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
Aaron
June 20th, 2005, 10:52 PM
and another...

if I delete all my templates, when I create a new page, in a current Page Group or a brand new Page Group... the master template is always used... but it is deleted... huh?

I had 3 templates and it seems the master template stays like a ghost and is used even when it does not exist. This is some serious magic.
Aaron
June 20th, 2005, 10:56 PM
and another...

as far as the "cast is not vaild" error goes that I posted... it happens when there is nothing in the CCF... I deleted ALL pages/panels/everything... the tree shows nothing at all.

see attachment
danward79
June 22nd, 2005, 12:15 PM
Hi Ben,

Finally started having a play with your latest alpha 0.6.1

Got my first error for you

If I go into a button properties and select State 1 then Edit LUA I get the following exception



************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Scintilla.ScintillaControl.set_ConfigurationLangua ge&#40;String value&#41;
at com.promixis.LUAEditorForm..ctor&#40;String lua&#41;
at com.promixis.ElementProperties.but_rule_lua_Click&#40; Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick&#40;EventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp&#40;MouseEventAr gs mevent&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
danward79
June 22nd, 2005, 12:18 PM
Ben,

It would appear that short cut's for copy and paste do not work in the ID tag, or any other of the text boxes in button properties
danward79
June 22nd, 2005, 12:27 PM
Ben,

Another problem, sorry!

If I make a new file, then goto system, file properties and change the res to 480 x 640 press ok etc, then go to master template and open it to add a frame, the page is at 240 x 320 see attached pic.

However, it does not seem to effect the home page view etc, it just does not show everything in the template view.
danward79
June 22nd, 2005, 12:46 PM
Ben,

I get the same error as Aaron, when I try to save a ccf,
danward79
June 22nd, 2005, 12:53 PM
Ben,

I can't see the tabs on the bottom of the screen for viewing variables etc, how can I get them back?
Ben S
June 24th, 2005, 08:56 AM
Hi guys -
I'm heading out for a few days, but you'll be receiving an email from me shortly with the new link. There are other issues you guys mentioned which are not yet resolved. My intention is to try to release weekly to ensure you guys have more to play with.

0.7.1.0 (24-Jun-2005)
1. Fixed - Cut and delete leaving previous item selected
2. Fixed - Error when saving CCF if using Timer, Device, or HardKey alias
3. Fixed - Issue when changing size not always repainting master template
4. Fixed - A few other small issues
5. Added - Options to draw and snap to grid. It is set to 10 pixels right now, and is not yet editable
6. Added - NetRemote Variable Inspector - shows all NR variables in an organized layout (from Tools menu)
7. Added - Many context menus have the proper items on them
8. Added - Copy and paste action groups
9. Added - Quick access to name and position in lower portion of designer
10. Added - Right click menu to close document tab
Aaron
June 24th, 2005, 09:03 AM
Cool!

If I can make one suggestion on the GUI for the items... can you condense the pop-up screen so that we do not need to open 3 windows to get to everything like the IR codes and such... too many levels, IMO.

What would really be nice is having a GUI like with VS where the properties 'sheet' is in a docked panel... this would be sweet for easy access, just highlight an item and access the properties.
Rob H
June 24th, 2005, 09:10 AM
The variable inspector has gone - clearly replaced by the Tools|NetRemote Variable inspector.

Unfortunately you've apparently missed out an assembly from the install - Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews
Aaron
June 24th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Variable inspector error...


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.IO.FileNotFoundException&#58; File or assembly name Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews, or one of its dependencies, was not found.
File name&#58; "Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews"
at com.promixis.Forms.ReferenceInformationForm..ctor&#40; NRIEditorForm parent&#41;
at com.promixis.Forms.NRIEditorForm.menuButtonItemVie wVariables_Activate&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.k.b&#40;TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;Boolean select&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;

=== Pre-bind state information ===
LOG&#58; DisplayName = Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews, Version=0.9.9.10250, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
&#40;Fully-specified&#41;
LOG&#58; Appbase = C&#58;\Program Files\Promixis\NetRemote Designer\
LOG&#58; Initial PrivatePath = NULL
Calling assembly &#58; NRDesigner, Version=0.7.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null.
===

LOG&#58; Policy not being applied to reference at this time &#40;private, custom, partial, or location-based assembly bind&#41;.
LOG&#58; Post-policy reference&#58; Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews, Version=0.9.9.10250, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.DLL.
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.DLL.
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.EXE.
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.EXE.



************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
NRDesigner
Assembly Version&#58; 0.7.1.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.7.1.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/NRDesigner.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.2032
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
Interop.NetRemoteLibrary
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/Interop.NetRemoteLibrary.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
Assembly Version&#58; 1.1.3.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.3.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib
Assembly Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
Win32 Version&#58; 0.5.0.0
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandDock
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.6.1
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.6.1
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
OwnerDrawnListView
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
Win32 Version&#58; 1.0.1877.16258
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///C&#58;/Program%20Files/Promixis/NetRemote%20Designer/OwnerDrawnListView.DLL
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly Version&#58; 1.0.5000.0
Win32 Version&#58; 1.1.4322.573
CodeBase&#58; file&#58;///c&#58;/windows/assembly/gac/accessibility/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/accessibility.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging, the config file for this
application or machine &#40;machine.config&#41; must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example&#58;

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.
Aaron
June 24th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Highlighting items and using 'Delete' from the 'Edit' menu does not work.
Aaron
June 24th, 2005, 10:09 AM
Saving error...

There was a problem saving the CCF (Object reference not set to an instance of an object.). The original file has been restored.
danward79
June 24th, 2005, 12:48 PM
Hi Ben,

I also get the error when trying to view variables


************** Exception Text **************
System.IO.FileNotFoundException&#58; File or assembly name Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews, or one of its dependencies, was not found.
File name&#58; "Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews"
at com.promixis.Forms.ReferenceInformationForm..ctor&#40; NRIEditorForm parent&#41;
at com.promixis.Forms.NRIEditorForm.menuButtonItemVie wVariables_Activate&#40;Object sender, EventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.k.b&#40;TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;Boolean select&#41;
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show&#40;&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush&#40;ToolbarItemBase item, Point position&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc&#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage &#40;Message& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc&#40;M essage& m&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback&#40;IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam&#41;

=== Pre-bind state information ===
LOG&#58; DisplayName = Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews, Version=0.9.9.10250, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
&#40;Fully-specified&#41;
LOG&#58; Appbase = C&#58;\Program Files\Promixis\NetRemote Designer\
LOG&#58; Initial PrivatePath = NULL
Calling assembly &#58; NRDesigner, Version=0.7.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null.
===

LOG&#58; Policy not being applied to reference at this time &#40;private, custom, partial, or location-based assembly bind&#41;.
LOG&#58; Post-policy reference&#58; Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews, Version=0.9.9.10250, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.DLL.
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.DLL.
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.EXE.
LOG&#58; Attempting download of new URL file&#58;///C&#58;/Program Files/Promixis/NetRemote Designer/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews/Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.EXE.



************** Loaded Assemblies **************
ryan74
June 26th, 2005, 12:02 AM
sorry if this isnt the right place but i just wanted to say ive been using netremote for as while and decided to try out the designer this week for the first time. i had tried tonto but lost patience quickly. I love it, it seems to work well and is easy for people like me to use. yeah it crashes every now and then but it hasnt bothered me too much and now im getting ccfs that i want instead of relying on others. i didnt realise it could be this easy with girder and usbuirt and netremote. thanks very much, keep up the good work.
Ben S
June 26th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Hi guys - I just returned.

I realized about a half hour out on the road that I hadn't included the new file in the installer for the Variable Inspector. Argh!

I've attached the file you need here, just drop it in the directory with everything else and you should be good to go.

Aaron - is the save error with the CCF you sent me?
Ben S
June 26th, 2005, 11:03 AM
Also, when posting the output exception info, can you guys possibly attach the output as a text file so as to not clog up the thread? It makes it a lot easier for me to read that way.
Rob H
June 26th, 2005, 11:18 AM
Thanks Ben, that works much better.

Could we have the refresh button on the variable inspector window?

I like the tree view - possibly an option to have it open in an unexpanded state?

While I'm on the variable inspector did the old version have a context menu to copy the name and value to the clipboard? Or am I thinking of Girder 4?

Could we also have the tree treat _ as a path indicator in the same way that the period is?
Ben S
June 26th, 2005, 11:58 AM
Could we have the refresh button on the variable inspector window?

Absolutely.



I like the tree view - possibly an option to have it open in an unexpanded state?

Potentially. If it makes more sense to stay unexpanded, I can have it start unexpanded.



While I'm on the variable inspector did the old version have a context menu to copy the name and value to the clipboard? Or am I thinking of Girder 4?

I think Girder 4. I didn't do anything specifically to make this possible.



Could we also have the tree treat _ as a path indicator in the same way that the period is?
Sure. I'll add the option.

Thanks Rob!
danward79
June 26th, 2005, 12:10 PM
Hi guys - I just returned.

I realized about a half hour out on the road that I hadn't included the new file in the installer for the Variable Inspector. Argh!

So why did'nt you turn around and fix it :evil:

You must get your priorities straight :wink:
Rob H
June 26th, 2005, 12:53 PM
One other thing about the variable inspector - how about an option for it to stay on top, or failing that a shortcut key to open it.

Oh, and a bug report

If you double click on the header separator to the right of the Value column you get the following error



See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time &#40;JIT&#41; debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException&#58; Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.TreeListView. AutoSetColWidth&#40;TreeListNodeCollection nodes, Int32& mwid, Int32& twid, Int32 i&#41;
at Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.TreeListView. AutoSetColWidth&#40;TreeListNodeCollection nodes, Int32& mwid, Int32& twid, Int32 i&#41;
at Lyquidity.Controls.ExtendedListViews.TreeListView. OnMouseDown&#40;MouseEventArgs e&#41;
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown&#40;Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks&#41;


Double clicking on the separator between name and value works correctly.