Voodo3000 with Tv_OUT

[Ron]

Could you email it to me again? I might have missed it, please also include a short description. Thanks

[mitko]

I had the same problem using Diamond Vipper II (Savage 2000) and I didn't find any automation neighter in Win nor in Girder. So you have to make the multigroup but you have to add some delays (wait command) between given steps. You have to see which ones depending on commands which you use to Enable the TV-Out

[mitko]

Did you set any antirepeat interval to the command in Girder? If your remote sends the seme code in a very short period of time then Girder will activate the shortcut again and this can mess up everything.

I hope this helps

The other way is to use Girder all the way:
you make a multigroup command with the following commands in it:
1.start program: display.cpl
1'. wait 500ms
2.use Ctrl+Tab several times until you reach Settings
3.use Alt+D to go to Advanced...
3'. wait 500ms
4....

do you get the idea?
you have to use the the dalay. all the key sequenses are send to the "display properties" window (don't remember exactly it's name it was s.th. like #32xxx)

[StirCwazy]

Hey Hobbe, I need something very similar. I've got a v3 3500tv I need to do exactly what you were talking about. What steps did you use in AutoMate to get it working. I've tried the recorder function and it never gets the mouse movement just right. Did you do it some other way? As well, how did you call up the macro with Girder?

Stir

[StirCwazy]

Hey, it kinda works. I got the whole key sequence down and got it into AutoMater, but it hits and misses. Sometimes it works, other times it opens up other things. I don't know how or why, but something is goofy

[StirCwazy]

OK, and how do I make sure the hub is the active window? Like I said, it worked once or twice and now wont work at all...

Stir

[StirCwazy]

Yea I understand that, that's exactly what I'm doing. Just standing back using the remote yet some how things like recycle bin get opened. It's weird. Oh well, back to the drawing board...

Stir

[StirCwazy]

OK, I figured out something I think. If I launch the macro from the keyboard or by selecting run from the shortcut in AutoMate it works 100% of the time. If I launch from Girder it starts missing the active window of the Hub and goes elsewhere. So, Hobbe you have any ideas?

Stir

[StirCwazy]

Hobbe, that's already selected. Yet for whatever reason Girder doesn't do it right. Like I said before, it doesnt matter how many windows I have open, when I launch the shortcut thru AutoMate it works perfect. Yet when I launch it from Girder it always messes up. Any other ideas? Thanks for the help :smile:

Stir

[StirCwazy]

Another thing I just found out. If the Girder window is open it launches the macro PERFECTLY!!! But with Girder minimized to the systray it never gets it right.

Ideas?

[StirCwazy]

ok, well thanks again Hobbe...

Well, the floor is open for suggestions.

To recap, I installed AutoMate and made a macro to enable TV Out on my V3 3500tv. I setup Girder so that it activated that macro by a hotkey.

Scenario 1
Girder window is closed, key pressed to activate the macro, macro launches yet never really gets the correct window. It jumps from thing to thing.

Scenario 2
Girder window is open, key pressed to activate macro, macro launches and works properly.

I've setup Girder to use the foreground Window, which in this case would be the 3DFX Hub where the changes are made.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance...
Stir

[StirCwazy]

OK Hobbe, looks like you called that one. I left Girder closed and launched the macro from the keyboard hotkey, it worked. So, what did I do wrong in Girder to make it flip out like that?

Stir

[StirCwazy]

Thanks, I'll give that a whirl... was out of town so sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Stir

[Hobbe]

Hi!
I have a Voodoo 3 Graphics card installed on my computer.
The problem is that when i want to switch the output to the TV_out, i have to do 6 or seven several steps before the tv_out is activated.
I created a multi group in girder with all theese steps. Each step works fine individually, but not when they're executed in a sequence after each other. How can i automate this kind of things in girder (or in windows)?????? Pls help me...

[Hobbe]

Oh, i'll try that..
I solved my problem by installing a automation tool called "Automate". There i recorded 2 macros, one for monitor->TV and one for TV->monitor. From girder i just call this automate program with the right caller.
This works fine, but i rather do it all in girder.
I would like to see an macro recording (or similiar) feature in girder, this would make things much much easier.

regards, Hobbe

[Hobbe]

Hi StirCrazy!
Start by downloading "Automate" from http://www.unisyn.com/downloads/autodemo.cfm

Now create the macro in this way in the automate (task wizard):
1. Start the 3dfxHub.exe. (start an application)
Next step is a series of keyboard shortcuts.
The shortcuts in my 3dfx program are:
SHIFT-TAB, right aroow, right aroow, right aroow, TAB, Space, Enter, Enter, Left Arrow, Enter.
If you do theese sequence after you've started the 3dfxhub you'll activate the TV out port. This is what Automate is going to do for you (keystrokes/send keystrokes). When you're done, just assign another shortcut (trigger) to this script in Automate. Ex Ctrl+A or something else. In girder you set a button on your remoote to "write" this shortcut when pressed.
Almost the same procedure when you want to do deactivate the TV-out (TV->Monitor), except for the keysequense.

I hope you understood.. :smile:

Here is the source-code from my automate script, if it's any help for you:

Monitor->TV

START: "C:Program3dfx Interactive3dfx ToolsApps3dfxHub.exe","",0,"",0,1,0,""
SEND: 0,"10",+{TAB}{RIGHT}{RIGHT}{RIGHT}{TAB}{SPACE}~~{LEFT}~

TV->MONITOR

START: "C:Program3dfx Interactive3dfx ToolsApps3dfxHub.exe","",0,"",0,1,0,""
SEND: 0,"10",+{TAB}{RIGHT}{RIGHT}{RIGHT}{TAB}{TAB}{TAB}{TAB}{T AB}{TAB}{TAB}{TAB}{TAB}{SPACE}~~{LEFT}~

Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work.. /Hobbe

[Hobbe]

That's probably because the 3dfxhub program most be in the foreground. The keystrokes will only be sent to the active application in the foreground...

[Hobbe]

The program is in the foreground (Active)when the icon in the systray is "pressed" or when the title bar is lit.
When youre testing your script you
can't cklick with the mouse on other applications. use ONLY the remoote ctrl...

[Hobbe]

Yes.... in Girder, when you do the shortcuts, make shure that the box "send to foreground task" is checked. You can find this under "keyboard/Target"...
You start the automate-script in girder via a shortcut, nothing else..
/HObbe

[Hobbe]

Sorry, i have no other ideas.. I've told you everything i can think of. It wasn't hard at all for me to getting it work, i don't know what might be the problem on your computer... sorry...:sad:

[Hobbe]

Hmmm, well... Try to press the shortkey assigned to the automate-script on your keyboard while girder is closed. If it works, then your problem is in Girder. You could also try to assign another shortcut to your script, maybe some other task in windows also uses that specific shortcut you've chosed.

[Spider]

I found this wonderful program because I was looking to do exactly the same thing (and I found this thread). Excellent app. I'm still a Girder newbie, so please bear with me.

I wrote a group that will do what you ask. It's done for the Win2k driver for the Voodoo 3/3000 (5.0.2195.232). I sent it to Ron Bessems (I hope that's the right person...), so hopefully it'll show up on the Exports page soon. Like I said, I'm new at this, so it might not work for everyone. But it works perfectly for me. And it'll switch back and forth with a single command.