X10 vs. UPB vs. Z-Wave vs. ?

[Agonostis]

X10 has the most products and the most support here, but the stuff kind of sucks.

UPB and Z-wave both look better, but don't seem to have plugins?

For lighting/HVAC integration with Girder, what are people recomending these days?

[Treetop]

what are people recomending these days?
Well, its pretty difficult to say at this time, as these new techs are just now beginning to come to market (or will soon). I recommend waiting a bit to see what will happen.

That said, UPB and Insteon are the ones I'm keeping an eye on. Z-wave got off to a bit of a rocky start (modules burning out, when a bulb blew), but new products are slowly making their way to consumers: A Z-wave T-stat was just released.

[Guide] An introduction to the Insteon world, Pictures included! (http://www.cocoontech.com/index.php?showtopic=1233&st=0)

And another reason why I like Insteon...

On a a side note I have the Insteon develops kit right here :-) No ETA.
http://www.promixis.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11003&highlight=insteon

At this time, I'm just sitting on the sidelines and watching all of this unfold.

Treetop

[Promixis]

It will be interesting to see what shakes out ;)

We are planning on Insteon and ZWave plugins for G4.

I do not know about UPB.

[Treetop]

We are planning on Insteon and ZWave plugins for G4.

I do not know about UPB.

Sweet! :D

[Agonostis]

Insteon looks like it might be the ticket. Website says products available 2nd quarter 2005 - anybody seen anything yet?

[Promixis]

We have a couple of developers kits but that's it. I am guessing this is going to late to market...