NetRemote Designer 1.1.0.31 (posted 01-May-2006)

[Ben S]

Hello everyone -
NRD version 1.1.0.31 is now available.

Download here: Download link (http://www.promixis.com/download.php?id=779)
Purchase a license here: Purchase link (https://www.plimus.com/jsp/buynow.jsp?contractId=1650974)

1.1.0.31 (01-May-2006)
1. Fixed - Finally got the last RPC error when NR shuts down "fixed". Please let me know if you still see this.
2. Fixed - Renamed lua variable inspector from "Curret NetRemote Variables" to "Current Lua Environment"
3. Added - NRD will now figure out the average FPS for an animated graphic and use it
4. Added - Image picker will show FPS if animated.

1.1.0.30 (29-Apr-2006)
1. Fixed - Animation not saving properly
2. Added - Better storage of states, image var usage, etc. by separating these into separate entities rather than shared use of ID Tag area
3. Added - In NRD 1.1 format, it now shows "Hidden" for a state rather than "hide when false" (NR needs to be enhanced to used this info, currently only hidden for the default state works (which is equivalent to "hide when false" in State 1.
4. Added - Better support for Animated graphics, where the information about the animated is stored with the image, not with the button.
5. Fixed - Bug copying elements between CCFs when in NRD 1.1 format.

1.1.0.27 (06-Apr-2006)
1. Fixed - Problem with some users CCFs where element heights were less than 0 severely crashing the designer.
2. Fixed - Problem where (when saving) NRD not being able to connect with NetRemote would make you lose your changes. It will now still save normally if it can't connect to NetRemote, and if it fails when sending to NetRemote, it will still save it with a .new extension so you can recover if needed.

1.1.0.26 (04-Apr-2006)
1. Fixed - Problem getting lua variables where variables would contain multiple lines.
2. Fixed - Problem getting lua variables where variables were quite large (variables now truncated to 50 characters if over that).

1.1.0.25 (02-Apr-2006)
1. Changed - Potential fix for lua error when using NR 1.9 and newer which occured for some people.

1.1.0.24 (31-Mar-2006)
1. Added - Support for new items understood by NR 1.9 and newer only. To activate this, go to the file properties and choose "NRD 1.1" instead of "NRD 1.0". You will be warned that the file will not be compatible with older versions of NR.
2. Added - Support for 24 bit color selection when NRD 1.1 format used.
3. Added - Support for different fonts on different buttons when NRD 1.1 format used.
4. Added - Support for naming color schemes when NRD 1.1 format used.
5. Added - Lua console (requires NR 1.9 or newer)
6. Added - Lua variable inspector (requires NR 1.9 or newer)
7. Added - Support for negative offsets in loop frames

1.0.0.23 (19-Mar-2006)
1. Added - Organization of plugin instances under a given plugin. For instance, open the MediaBridge node and you'll see "instances". Open instances and you'll see each, by name.

1.0.0.22 (15-Feb-2006)
1. Fixed - Will pick up NR's new registry key and start NR if it's not registered via COM properly
2. Fixed - Will correctly create sliders (this was the problem causing some CCF's not to save properly)
3. Fixed - Added workaround to problem where there are some cyclic elements. It will not load these elements, but will continue to load the CCF.
4. Fixed - Added workaround to problem where it won't load some PCF's properly due to problem computer MD5 hash.

1.0.0.20 (23-Jan-2006)
1. Fixed - Copying pages would drop actions
2. Fixed - Copy pages would allow for exceptions when modifying elements
3. Fixed - Font issues with Pronto font

1.0.0.19 (03-Jan-2006)
1. Fixed - Changing an element wouldn't always update the display until a click forced a refresh
2. Added - Confirmation box to delete Page Group
3. Added - Deleting a page group will close all of it's open pages
4. Fixed - Creating a new page wouldn't get the properly overlay panel

1.0.0.18 (29-Dec-2005)
1. Fixed - Built installer from latest version (some of the items below were not properly included)
2. Fixed - Text wrap flag not saving for buttons
3. Fixed - Problem adding images which are write protected

1.0.0.17 (27-Dec-2005)
1. Fixed - Clicking okay in Element Properties for a frame removes child elements from tree
2. Fixed - Sometimes selecting a state using Lua wouldn't set Lua properly in picklist
3. Changed - Lua editor now remembers where it was last used (within a NRD session)
4. Changed - Lua editor now shows line numbers
5. Changed - Clicking okay in Lua editor now sets "changed" flag, allowing you to save the ccf.
6. Added - Support for font sizes smaller than 8 and up to 120 (New NR required)

0.9.15.0 (17-Dec-2005)
1. Fixed - Selecting states wouldn't update images in element properties
2. Fixed - Renaming a frame would not update tree

0.9.13.0 (14-Dec-2005)
1. Fixed - Export image not working
2. Fixed - Copy elements and paste via control-v (instead of right clicking) multiple elements getting wrong position

0.9.12.0 (13-Dec-2005)
1. Added - Better copy and paste (it now pastes to the x,y position you right clicked)
2. Added - Better naming of frames in tree (it shows state info, if available, otherwise "unnamed element")
3. Fixed - Using text typing in numeric up/down controls now fires events
4. Added - Drag and drop of files to image library
5. Fixed - Exception when executing Export All
6. Added - Pronto Keyboard. Right click in text area in ElementProperties and choose "Set to Pronto Character"
7. Fixed - Cancelling element properties properly does not set element name
8. Added - Option to Toggle all frames
9. Added - Ability to distinguish image copying to eliminate image duplication problems
10. Fixed - Replace Image with File not working
11. Fixed - Exception in copy page group
12. Added - Save message on exit

0.9.11.0 (07-Dec-2005)
1. Added - Template "overlays". These templates are used in conjunction with the base template, and include elements that will appear on -top- of your page. New NR Required
2. Added - Animated image support. This will import animated gifs and other files that have "cells". If other file, it will prompt you for information to create frames from the "cells". New NR Required
3. Changed - Image picker has options moved to top button bar instead of right click options
4. Added - Ability to limit image picker to images of the same size as an image already selected (on by default)
5. Added - Ability to hide unreferenced images (on by default)
6. Changed - "Remove Image" now gone from image picker. The first item in the list is "No Image".

0.9.10.0 (01-Nov-2005)
1. Changed - Z-order changes (Send to Back, Bring to Front, etc) are now undoable/redoable.
2. Changed - Z-order changes no longer refresh the whole tree, meaning selections and current expansion of nodes stays.
3. Changed - Jump and Alias now have trees directly in action designer, no need to double click to show a list of jump targets, etc.
4. Changed - MouseMode jump now relabled "Back".
5. Changed - NRD now supports "components" (see advanced tab). When supported in NetRemote (tomorrow's prerelease) you'll see a picklist of special types, which will disable the action tab and be "that type".
6. Changed - Sliders now converted to NRBasic plugin action on load (when supported in NetRemote (tomorrow's prerelease)), allowing you to select it as a special type and fill in parameters.
7. Added - Preliminary docs to designer.
8. Changed - Register menu item now hides once registered.
9. Changed - Installer will allow you to associate .ccf extension with designer.
10. Added - NRD will now take a ccf on the command line, allowing you to double click a ccf and have it open in the designer.
11. Fixed - Hitting okay on the "trial expired" dialog will no longer throw big error.

0.9.9.0 (15-Oct-2005)
1. Fixed - Saving a file that uses key aliases would screw up the saving of the key alias.
2. Added - Catch around loading action groups to ensure that if there is a screw-up during save that the file can be loaded properly.
3. Added - You can now enter RC5, RC6, and RC6x codes in addition to RC5x and learned. Note that only learned are currently supported in NetRemote, but this is here now for the capability of using IR passthrough to a server which understands RC5, RC5x, RC6, and RC6x codes.

0.9.8.0 (11-Oct-2005)
1. Fixed - Deleting a button that has an alias against it would throw exception on saving.
2. Fixed - Alias action would show deleted page groups / pages / elements in picker
3. Fixed - Jump action would show deleted page groups / pages / elements in picker
4. Fixed - Tabbing through elements would throw exception if the element list included a deleted element
5. Fixed - Grouping / Ungrouping would throw exception in rare circumstances.
6. Changed - Installer now checks to see if NetRemote is installed, and will download and install it for you if it isn't.

0.9.7.0 (06-Oct-2005)
1. Fixed - Several inconsistencies with copy / cut / paste in the Action designer
2. Added - Ability to paste actions in the action designer from a copied action, a copied action group, or the actions from a copied button.

0.9.6.0 (05-Oct-2005)
1. Fixed - Problem saving some CCF's with empty page names causing an exception to be thrown.
2. Fixed - Problem with closing the image picker maximized causing the image picker to not show correctly next time (this is a Windows / .NET framework error - our workaround is to restore the form away from maximized when closing. To make the window bigger "permanently" resize the form manually to be bigger)
3. Added - More exception handling around the loading of plugin/plugin actions.

0.9.5.0 (03-Oct-2005)
1. Fixed - Problem showing lua files from right click on System Properties
2. Fixed - Problem with frame names, etc. being locked due to "behind the scenes monkeying around" with the ID tag.
3. Added - Ability to choose what part of the look you want to copy (from right click menu)
4. Added - Form allowing you to pick what you want to paste when copying a frame or button to a button
5. Added - Bring To Top / Send To Back options in right click menu from tree
6. Fixed - Potential problem with multiple plugin actions screwing up the loading of the designer.

[Jlee]

3. Added - Ability to choose what part of the look you want to copy (from right click menu)
4. Added - Form allowing you to pick what you want to paste when copying a frame or button to a button

Great. Thanks Ben. You are a star!

[Ben S]

Great. Thanks Ben. You are a star!

Hey, thanks!

[danward79]

In the late version I could not cut and paste in the action designer. Did you have this reported?

It is still present in this version. I can "cut" but not "paste".

[Ben S]

Right you are, Dan. Right you are. This had not been reported, but I did find several inconsistencies in there, which I've now taken care of. Thanks!

[Ben S]

Anyone actively using this version? Is it working well for you?

Things I've seen, and am fit to fix for a release tomorrow evening:

1) Deleting pages, page groups still show in jump and alias actions
2) Deleting buttons that have aliases against them cause problems when saving
3) Copying images/look doesn't change the mouse down image (for some reason)

I just finished creating a 480x640 interface mostly from scratch in the designer, and although it took some time to get perfect, it was an absolute -breeze- compared to Tonto.

[danward79]

Sorry Ben, not used this version yet.

[beags]

Might just be my ccf.
But whenever I open it I get the error "Unable to read beyond end of stream"
I then have to open the CCF with Tonto, save the file & then I am able to open the file with Designer.
If I then save the file with designer & try open it again, I get the same error message & have to open with tonto again.
This has started happening with the last 2 versions of designer.

Regards
Des

[beags]

This only happens when assigning a button alias

[Ben S]

Can you send me the ccf after saving in Tonto (so all I have to do is open it and hit save)?

That would be great, thanks.

[beags]

Thanks Ben
here is the ccf after it has been saved in Tonto

Kind regards
Des

[Ben S]

Hi Beags -
Thanks! This file helped me find a nasty little bug relating to key aliases. I've uploaded the fixed version.

[beags]

Thanks Ben
I will give the new version a shot.

Kind Regards
Des

[danward79]

Ben,

Just thought I would post to say I have had no issues for ages with the designer. It is really comming along.

I bet you thought I was relaxing!

:P

[Ben S]

Awesome Dan, that's great to hear. Does that mean Tonto has been removed from your machine? :)

[danward79]

No, but I forgot how to find it :)

[jwilson56]

Well Ben I am finally going to try the new designer out. I need to make some changes to Now Playing so it will be interesting to see if I can break it... hehehe

John


Ok that didn't take long....

How do you grab invisible buttons? On my light control panel I have a buttons that have no image (hence they are invisible) for 'on' and 'off that lay over the top of the integrated button/slider graphic that the user sees. In the new designer I can see the buttons listed on the tree and when I click the tree I can see the button highlighted but when I try and click on the button on the screen the dotted line disappears and I can't copy it or move it around.

What am I doing wrong?'

Also a couple requests....

First it would be nice when you copy and then paste an object (lets say you want to copy a button over and over again).... that when you click paste.. it would paste it at or at least near the current mouse position. Right now it pastes it in place making it difficult to know which one to grab to move.

Second it would be great to be able to use the Left Mouse Button/CTRL key to copy the object and be able to drag it to the new location. Labview has that feature and I use it hundreds of times per week. It really is a nice feature....

Last for now... some of my panels (frames) don't have names and show up as blanks on the tree.... is there a way to rename them? The 'Element Name' is ghosted out.

[jwilson56]

Well I tackled the change today and if went pretty well. I did have to redo all my invisible buttons for some reason (I could not grab them) but it really didn't take that long. Great job on the editor Ben!!!

Here is a link to the new screen shot.

http://www.promixis.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=132246#132246

John

[Ben S]

Thanks John! As I recall, you had transparent images instead of transparent backgrounds (IE: no image, just text color and background color of transport) which was throwing off our checks on image alphas.

I wonder if we could convert these automatically, if you are still using them. If not, this probably won't happen too often. Thanks for going through this effort, John.

Regarding your requests:
1. We'll look at smarter location pasting
2. Hold control and left mouse button copies, you're saying? Tonto had something like this, and it always drove me crazy. Unless we're thinking of different things.
3. This is due to the current legacy issue that frames can have ID tag's (used for states) or names, but not both. We can have it say <unnamed> or something, for now. Once NRD 1.0 is "final" and we can start making changes to NR, we'll add the ability for a frame to have states _and_ a name.

[jwilson56]

Well I am back at work today and checked Labview.... when you hold the CTRL key down and then click over an object with the left mouse button and drag the object, it will be copied and moved along with the mouse until you release the left mouse button. With this I can drag and click and quickly create a bunch of buttons. Very efficient once you get used to it. I have used other programs that had done simular things.

I would settle for a smarter paste function for now.

When I tried my CCF created with the new designer it seemed to whack out some other things (font colors changed and lost a frame for some reason). Nothing to drastic and nothing that was not quickly resolved. I agree that once the switch is made to the new designer most of these problems will never be seen again so there is no sense getting too excited about them.

I usually tackle major changes to Now Playing in the winter months... so I look forward to playing with the new designer and new features you will add down the road.

John

[Ben S]

Hi John -
Good suggestions all around. I've got a few other changes in the works, and I'll see about getting these implemented, also.

Thanks!
-Ben

[jwilson56]

Ben

Dumb question.... when an error dialog pops up in the designer does is also write it out to a log file? I am getting the same error now (not quite repeatable) and then and would like to post the details.

I have to say I am really liking this new designer... and I never did have much trouble using Tonto either...but the new one is a breeze so far.

Great job again!!!!

John

[Ben S]

Yes, you should find a logfile called "Designer.log" in the NRD directory.

Thanks John! As one of our best evangelists, I'm extremely happy to hear that you're finding it easy to use (and fun!). Please let us know of other things that you and the communities you represent would like to see, and we'll rapidly move to deliver.

Thanks again!

[jwilson56]

Ben

Ok... maybe I am missing it... how do you create a GAC view in the new designer? I have to admit that I always copied (I am a copy and paste junkie) and modified my GACs in Tonto but what are the steps you would use to create on in the designer from scratch?

John

[Promixis]

John, did you look at the manual...? if we didn't cover it, let me know and I will ask John Hind to do a section on it.

[jwilson56]

Well I have not seen a manual for the designer. I did a search in this forum as well as looked in the designer folder. There is a help file and it doesn't cover GAC. If there is a manual could you provide me a link?

Thanks

John

[Ben S]

Mike means the help link. It does a have a bunch of information, but nothing on GAC specifically.

There's nothing specifically setup to create GAC+ views in your interface, but the following steps should get you up and running:

1. Decide on a GAC prefix name (this will be used when you fetch the GAC, and used on display elements and actions). This will be [Prefix] below.
2. Create a frame to house the GAC entries.
3. Create a frame inside that frame and make it the size you want each item in the GAC to be (a big rectangle for a list, a square for a set of album covers).
4. For the frame you created in step 2, open it and go to Position/Advanced. Set it's loop entries (#X, #Y, etc.) to be the way you'd like.
5. In the frame created in step 3, add elements for each GAC entry
5a. For an album cover, create a square button and set it's image variable to MP.[Prefix].Items[<LoopIndex>].Image
5b. For the GAC name, create a frame or button with the name {MP.[Prefix].Items[<LoopIndex>].Name}
5c. To have a button which will call the default action on an entry, use a lua (on release) action with the code [Prefix]:DefaultAction(<LoopIndex>)
5d. To have a button which will play the tracks on an entry, use a lua (on release) action with the code [Prefix]:Action(<LoopIndex>,'PLAY')
5e. To have a button which will add the tracks on an entry, use a lua (on release) action with the code [Prefix]:Action(<LoopIndex>,'ADD')
6. In your CCF's lua file, add:

[Prefix] = GAC:new{ var = '[Prefix'], count=#,useGP=1 };

# should be the total GAC entries you need.
7. In the jump action which goes to the page with the GAC entries, add a lua on release action with the code [Prefix]:GoScheme('<scheme>'), where scheme is where to get the entries from ('Playing Now' works, in addition to 'Media Library\Albums')

That should be it. This could (semi-easily) be automated in the designer at some point in the near future.

This document (http://www.promixis.com/download.php?ID=794) covers some more information about the GAC+ lua file.

[jwilson56]

Found a small quirk of a bug...

Open the properties of a button... change the name then decide to 'Cancel' out and the changes are still made....


Also I am not able to wrap text for long song titles.... is this a known bug or am I doing something wrong (WinXp client).

John

[jwilson56]

Another much needed enhancement (which Tonto had) is the ability to choose the text for the lables from a list as well as type them in. Its a bit ruff to select those custom Pronto characters from the keyboard. Maybe there is a way to do this but I have yet to figure out how.

John

[jwilson56]

Ben I found a small bug where you enter the X spacing for the Loop function. It seems that when you increment the X spacing using the mouse click (up and down) the number changes and everything works fine. However if you type the number into the box it ignores the entry (even though the number shows up in the box). This one drove me nuts for an hour!!!

John

[Ben S]

Hi John - I'll fix both bugs right away. I think I use those "numeric up downs" elsewhere, and I think they all behave this way (with this bug).

As for the special font, agreed. I'll add a little on screen keyboard for that.

Thanks!

[jwilson56]

Ben also check your copy images.... I don't think its copying the other 'states'.... also it has trouble copying from one CCF to another... might be the buttons with no images assigned. I fixed them all in the the current Now Playing... but when I copied the light control panel frame over to another skin I am working on... it did the same thing... nothing worked....

Also we need a way to manage the graphics library.... for one thing I am getting duplicates like crazy when I did alot of copy and pasting... and with no way to know what button is using what graphic it was a pain to clean up... maybe a way to at least delete images from the library and assign the default image... and then you can go around re-assigning them to the correct ones... something...

I have spent quite a number of hours playing with the designer... and so far I am quite impressed... a few problems...but all in all... pretty solid... still waiting for a smarter paste function... lol

Now if only I could remember all that I learned in Photoshop last winter.... if you don't use it you lose it I guess... lol

John

P.S. Is the text wrap bug on your list to fix? My new skin needs it badly...

[Ben S]

Ben also check your copy images.... I don't think its copying the other 'states'.... also it has trouble copying from one CCF to another... might be the buttons with no images assigned. I fixed them all in the the current Now Playing... but when I copied the light control panel frame over to another skin I am working on... it did the same thing... nothing worked....

Is this happening in the version I sent you? I thought this bug was fixed.


Also we need a way to manage the graphics library.... for one thing I am getting duplicates like crazy when I did alot of copy and pasting... and with no way to know what button is using what graphic it was a pain to clean up... maybe a way to at least delete images from the library and assign the default image... and then you can go around re-assigning them to the correct ones... something...

Agreed. I toyed with an algorithm to "figure out" when an image was copied, but had a problem or two so disabled it for now.


P.S. Is the text wrap bug on your list to fix? My new skin needs it badly...
Yes, this should also be fixed in the prerelease of NR I sent you. Is it not working successfully?

[jwilson56]

I have not been brave enough to try the one from your email again.. after the problem I had with those DLL's.... I will try it in the next couple days....

John

[Ben S]

Oh, okay. Sorry. I'll make sure those .dll's are installed properly and send a new prerelease shortly.

[jwilson56]

Also I am using the Avid scrolling text features... will that be a problem?

John

[Ben S]

Yes, until the AvidUtils plugin is upgraded to the new API.

[jwilson56]

Ben did you get my PM on the MJB List frame not being in the right spot relative to a hidden frame? Also I found that the MJB List will not slide with its parent frame using your new sliding LUA. Also I am getting lots of unhandled exception errors on many different actions dealing with frames/buttons and images and text changes. With some errors hitting the cancel button will get you past the error with the changes you did in tact. I didn't see anything in the log file.

John


P.S. Avid.... Any idea when your Avid Utilities will be updated?

[Ben S]

Yes, I've found that bug as well (introduced as part of the animation stuff). I have a version here I'm just making tweaks in before releasing to the community "at large" for testing.

Regarding sliding - I'll make that work.

[Ben S]

Hi folks - I've uploaded a new release of the designer.

John - I've fixed both the slide and popup MJB List issue. You'll see it in the next release of NR.

[Ben S]

Howdy folks - I just uploaded a new version.

[jwilson56]

Well I uninstalled everything on my development system and installed the newest NR and designer...

First bug...

You can't seem to rename frames. Under properties the new name appears to be changed but on the tree it remains the same.

John

[Mastiff]

After a few starts I can't start the designer without staring NR manually first. I use the latest NR version on the computer with designer. NR starts up, but it seems like Designer doesn't discover it. I only see the startup screen. Then, when I close NetRemote, the Designer pops the NetRemote could not be started box. OK'ing that shows that underneath the startup screen there's another box: "Object reference not set to an instance of an object."

[Ben S]

You can't seem to rename frames. Under properties the new name appears to be changed but on the tree it remains the same.

Ah. Got that one. It's renamed, it just isn't updating the tree. But I've found and fixed this one. Anything else that you noticed? I'll roll up another install shortly.

[Ben S]

After a few starts I can't start the designer without staring NR manually first. I use the latest NR version on the computer with designer. NR starts up, but it seems like Designer doesn't discover it. I only see the startup screen. Then, when I close NetRemote, the Designer pops the NetRemote could not be started box. OK'ing that shows that underneath the startup screen there's another box: "Object reference not set to an instance of an object."

It sounds like it's not registering COM properly (this is something Marcel mentioned he saw at one point). I'll need to investigate.

Thanks Mastiff.

[Ben S]

HI folks -
FYI - In fixing the frame naming, I broke something else (clicking okay on element properties would remove child objects from the tree).

I'm fixing a few issues, and a new release will be available soon.

Thanks!

[Ben S]

Bump for new version just uploaded (RC1 of NRD).

[Ben S]

Bump for new version uploaded.

[Wilhelm]

Hi Ben,

I tried the new version of Designer again, to see if it is finally able to import my old ccf.
Unfortunately the import of the standard skin is broken. So is the functionionality in the new 1.5.xx version of Netremote. :-(
I suppose this should still work?
In designer the templates are left blank. In NR 1.5.xx the skin images are shown, but the ccf part is placed at 0.0 position, so it overlaps the skin. 1.1 works correctly, but Designer still imports nothing.
Hope to hear from you soon
Cheers

Wilhelm

[Ben S]

The "standard" skin meaning the TSU6000 skin, or your custom skin?

[Wilhelm]

Ben,

what I meant was the skin in NRSkin directory (standard.ini) I think its TSU6000.
It's the same ccf I sent you several months ago.

[Ben S]

I just updated the version of NRD to 1.0.22.0.

This fixes a few problems people were having. Please give it a try and let me know if it works better.

[dsmes]

I just tried NRD 1.0.22.0 with NR 1.5.1.58 and it errors out on startup. DebugView log attached.

[Ben S]

Can you remove (temporarily) the -3014 plugin (I think this is MarcelUtils) and retry? It seems to be trying to load it twice, for some reason.

[dsmes]

Ben- Just tried that and got the same error. The plugin "instance" is (-5014) and the MarcelUtils Plugin is (-3014). So I'll now remove the dll, restart NR, and then try NRD...
OK, That did the trick! I can now start NRD w/o error!

Ben, this must be related to the MarcelUtil problem I documented in http://www.promixis.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14137 Why am I the only one with this problem? Can you point me to the registry keys to delete so I can attempt a fresh install? Or is there some debug you could suggest first?

[danward79]

Hi Ben,

I get the following trying to load a second ccf into the designer.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x800706BA): The RPC server is unavailable.
at NetRemoteLibrary.INetRemotePlugin.get_ID()
at com.promixis.NetRemotePluginWrapper.get_PluginID()
at com.promixis.Forms.ElementProperties..ctor(NRIEdit orControl parent)
at com.promixis.Controls.NRIEditorControl..ctor(NRIEd itorForm parent)
at com.promixis.Forms.NRIEditorForm.OpenFile(String filename)
at com.promixis.Forms.NRIEditorForm.menuItemOpen_Clic k(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.ButtonItemBase.OnActivate()
at TD.SandBar.k.b(TopLevelMenuItemBase A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Point A_3)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show(Boolean select)
at TD.SandBar.TopLevelMenuItemBase.Show()
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnItemPush(ToolbarItemBase item, Point position)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at TD.SandBar.MenuBar.OnMouseDown(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseDown(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at TD.SandBar.ToolBar.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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[Ben S]

Is NetRemote running when this happens?

[danward79]

Is NetRemote running when this happens?

yes

[Ben S]

And does it happen all the time? Most of the time?

Unfortunately I leave for Ireland tomorrow, but I'll dedicate resources to solving this for you upon my return (March 13th).

[pilotmike]

Ben
Just upgraded to the new NR and NR Designer.

Does the "ShowFrame" doesn't work anymore?
Had in my LUA:
ShowFrameControls1 = FramePopup:New('ShowFrameControls1', '*', nil)

It worked fine in the older NR.

Now I get the error:
Error running LUA chunk
[string "NRLUA"]:1: attempt to index global "ShowFrameControls1" is a nil value


Michael

[mhwlng]

problem :

I have an always-on-top state frame that I want to animate, but the Element name is greyed out in designer, so how do I set the frame ID that I need for GetElementByName ?

local eltray = NetRemote.GetElementByName("????????");
if (eltray) then
local x,y = eltray:GetPosition();
local w,h = eltray:GetSize();
eltray:SetPosition(x+10,y);
end


edit :

a workaround for above problem is to put some button on top of the state frame and use

element:GetParent();

that works ok...


Marcel

[Ben S]

Yes, that's a way to do it.

Alternatively you can use the "name" that NRD creates.

IE:

NetRemote.GetElementByName('STATE:myval') or whatever. This is actually the internal "name" of the frame.

[mhwlng]

how do I find out the name that NRD creates ?

I have

State 1, rule NOWPLAYINGTRAYPOPUP is 1, hide when false checked

this doesn't work :

NetRemote.GetElementByName("STATE:NOWPLAYINGTRAYPOPUP");


Marcel

[Ben S]

I've just uploaded a new version with a functionality enhancement concerning better handling of plugin instances.

You'll see 'unknown' has the instance name unless running NR 1.5.0.61 or newer.

[Ben S]

NetRemote.GetElementByName("STATE:NOWPLAYINGTRAYPOPUP,1");

should work, but you're right. This is ugly.

[mhwlng]

Would it be possible to add an option to enter the rgb code in the color picker ?

for example, I need this background colour : #5393AA


Marcel

[Rob H]

I've a feeling that this might not be possible until we get the new CCF format. Colours are limited to a choice of 256 - in fact that might even be the websafe colours only so perhaps 216.

Another thing that would be nice is for the currently selected colour to be outlined in the colour selection dialog - then you could tell which one you'd tried.

[Ben S]

You currently must select one of the "Pronto" colors.

But the next version of NR and NRD will unlock a few features if NRD sees you are running NR 1.5.0.62 or newer, such as font selection, 24 bit color selection, and the naming of schemes and graphics to make organization easier.

[Rob H]

Excellent! Can't wait!

[kurtlewis]

I'm running NRD 0.23 - If I load any ccf, no matter what, the tree view will not show the text next to the objects in the tree view. This is totally frustrating, can't seem to fix. rolling back to NRD 0.22 did not help - same thing.

Any thoughts? I just bought licenses for NR Pro and NRD and I'd like to start getting creative :)

screenshot of problem attached- check out left column- even when tree is expanded, still no text on any objects.

[kurtlewis]

just trying more ccf's - all produce the same 'missing text' issue in the tree.
I tried the usual windows fixes- reboots, uninstall and then reinstall, etc

[kurtlewis]

nm- fixed it. it seems the mfc71.dll in the designer directory was screwy. I replaced it with a copy from my backup folder and all is working well.

[Ben S]

Thanks Kurt. I'm glad you found the fix. I wonder if the version in the installer is screwed up, as others have commented about something similar.

[kurtlewis]

Hi Ben-
Actually, after I installed NRD it wouldn't fire up and I got the error 'could not find mfc71.dll' (not word-for-word, but the error message was similar) - It seems that file is not installed with the package. I had to copy it manually to the NRD directory.

[Ben S]

Ah. Okay. Now I understand. Because NetRemote formerly used MFC71.dll, I do not install with NRD.

NetRemote is now using MFC71u.dll, so I need to install MFC70.dll with both MediaBridge and NRD.

Thanks!

[kurtlewis]

no prob, glad I could help. Since I'm running both NR and NRD on the same box, If you put the new install packages together send me a link to them I'll test out.

I'm running your new march release of NR- there is still a copy of mfc71.dll in the netremote directory- althought I only see mfc70 , mfc70u and mfc71u in the windows\system32 dir. -if any of this helps.

[danward79]

Ben,

I have noticed that if I place a button inside a frame (which you can toggle) on a template it does not work, however, if I place the same button directly on the template page(outside the frame) it does work.

If I place the frame on the main pages of the ccf, it works also.

Is this behaviour correct?

[Ben S]

I'm confused. You mean the button won't toggle, or it doesn't appear?

[danward79]

Hi Ben,

The button would not work.

I have done some more investigation, when I was chatting to Rob, it actually appears that for some reason, it is being blocked by another frame or objected on another page of the ccf.

Unfortunately I could not find the "other" object, but moving the frame around on the template proved it.

Placing the whole thing onto the template overlay solved the problem.

[mhwlng]

I tried to run the new designer NetRemote-Designer-34.exe, with my own ccf file, I get a dialog box :

netremote designer error
length cannot be less than zero
parameter name:length

and then designer quits...

if I start nr first with a different ccf and then manually load my ccf file in designer, then I don't see any error and I can edit

sending my ccf file to nr from designer crashes nr and shortly after that designer as well..

Marcel

[mhwlng]

* in the new designer, I can select a new font,
but when I select bold/italic etc. this is not stored

* in designer, when I select verdana 20, I see verdana 19,8pt which gets rounded to verdana 19pt.
selecting 8 point verdana results in 7,8pt -> 7 pt

* if I enter a hex value in the colour chooser (thanks for that by the way :D ) and then press ok, it is not used.
I need to change the focus to another edit box before pressing ok.

* in the playing now list, the selected colour can be entered in the
button down/press area. This has no effect in the tree

* The netremote variable inspector gets confused if long strings are visible (e.g. artist biography,album review,lyrics)

Marcel

[Ginsonic]

Unfortunately I can no longer start NR-Designer 1.1.0.25 under Windows2000. It crashes after a delay. Had no problem with last version.

[Rob H]

Do you get any error message?

[Ginsonic]

No, only this one (see attached screenshot) after about one minute delay (german operating system):

[DaveS]

Sorry .25 does not launch on my xp machine. get

--netRemote Designer Error--
Found a low surrogate char without a preceding high surrogate at index: 45. The
input may not be in this encoding, or may not contain valid Unicode (UTF-16)
characters.
Parameter name: chars

Click OK then get application has generated an exception that could not be handled box and have to click ok to terminate the app.

Dave

[Ginsonic]

Sorry .25 does not launch on my xp machine
Click OK then get application has generated an exception that could not be handled box and have to click ok to terminate the app.

Seems to be a similar error to mine on Win2000

Dieter

[Ginsonic]

I just found the reason for my NRD not starting error ! Somehow my MS .Net framework 1.1 got corrupt. Reinstalled it and NRD starts again.

[Ben S]

DaveS - can you/have you tried the new version?

[danward79]

Ben,

I have just noticed that the variable inspectors both NR and lua have the same window title.

[kurtlewis]

Im noticing in NRD, when I go to set a background frame or button color that was previously saved as transparent, setting the color now forces the entire page background to pick up the same setting. I'm seeing this issue with changing font colors as well.

Example- I have a transparent button frame in my album view that if you press it executes opening the child. I wanted to set this button frame to a color 'on press'. Setting it to non-transparent and choosing a color makes the entire page that color. I am forced to leave it as transparent.
Same for the loop index. I wanted to set a background color for it, doing so changes the page color as well. My page backgrounds are all transparent and use the cooresponding template for it's image.

[Ben S]

Instead of just setting the color, right click in the scheme area and choose "add scheme", set it to that scheme, and then change the color.

It's trying to change all elements using that scheme (to be helpful).

Thanks Dan - it's fixed.

[kurtlewis]

Thanks Ben- i'll try that out when i get home this evening.
I guess I was looking at it from a Photoshop perspective, where each item is it's own individually editable object.

[kurtlewis]

there's something amiss with my schemes in 27
see the screenshot below- everything is 'unnamed'
I've tried re-installing NRD, but am getting same results.

[Ben S]

That's normal. NRD 1.0 format doesn't support named schemes. With NR 2.0 combined with NRD 1.1 you'll be able to name schemes so you can reference them later.

[kurtlewis]

I'm using the latest version of both NRD and NR-and my ccf format is set at 1.1

What am I missing?

[Ben S]

Oh. Hmmm. That should work. I'll need to investigate. I'm making some other decent sized changes to NRD to support more extension of the format (separate areas in the format for states, loops, hidden states, etc. so there is less "guessing" about what things can and can't work together). I'll double check this, also, and release both the new NR and NRD tomorrow evening.

[kurtlewis]

kewl- Looking forward to it!

on another note, shouldn't I be able to use any font now with the 1.1? I'm still stuck with only choosing from Pronto. I'm assuming that if working correctly I would see all of the font choices in the object properties / display tab, under 'change font'?

[Ben S]

Are you sure you changed the file format to NRD 1.1 via System properties? Once you do that you can choose 24 bit colors, name schemes, and choose fonts. It sounds like it might not have "taken".

[kurtlewis]

you were right- I had set it to 1.1 yesterday after reading a thread on it. I just looked at the system proerties and it was back at 1.0!
I set it to 1.1, saved, closed, opened and it seems to have taken.

I'm still seeing the odd color choices, and if you look at the screenshot the outer color band for the scheme is not rendering in the preview. I can at least name them now, so that's good. but any I create, the outer color still does not show in the right-hand scheme preview.

I got my fonts (hooray)- I noticed that selecting 'bold' does not work though- It doesn't take. Try it out with a Verdana font.

Where do I find the 24-bit color selection?

[kurtlewis]

you know what- i might be thinking that there is supposed to be an outer color band on each scheme selection, because I saw it laid out like that in earler versions of NRD. So there may not be anything to it....

[danward79]

Hi Ben,

I am still getting a few Server threw an exception errors when I am saving my ccf.

I am using nrd 1.1 format ccf.

[kurtlewis]

Hi Ben,

I am still getting a few Server threw an exception errors when I am saving my ccf.

I am using nrd 1.1 format ccf.

I'm getting these errors as well, using 1.0 format. The only 'work around' is to save the ccf with a different file name. That usually works...

[danward79]

Hi Ben,

I am still getting a few Server threw an exception errors when I am saving my ccf.

I am using nrd 1.1 format ccf.

I'm getting these errors as well, using 1.0 format. The only 'work around' is to save the ccf with a different file name. That usually works...

I have found that if an object is selected, and I unselect it, and persistently hit the save button it eventually saves. Sometimes takes a while thou. :-?

[Ben S]

Hi guys - Now that NR 2 is a little more stable, I'm turning back some attention on NRD testing to get the next version out.

[danward79]

Hi guys - Now that NR 2 is a little more stable, I'm turning back some attention on NRD testing to get the next version out.

No Problem, for me this is no killer.

[kurtlewis]

ya, it's annoying but not a show-stopper. I just need to remember to save my work 'early and often' heh

[swampcat]

I cannot get Netremote Designer to run. It says specified file cannot be found.

I've downloaded the latest version.

[kurtlewis]

another NRD 27 error I get less regularly is 'the RPC server cannot be found' - and then I cannot open any more ccf's in NRD.- just a heads up.

[Ben S]

Has NetRemote bombed recently when you get this error?

swampcat - Are you running NetRemote 1.1 or the 2.0 beta?

[kurtlewis]

Has NetRemote bombed recently when you get this error?



exactly- it only happens following an NR crash

[Ben S]

Okay, thanks.

[swampcat]

Has NetRemote bombed recently when you get this error?

swampcat - Are you running NetRemote 1.1 or the 2.0 beta?

Hi Ben,
I was running NetRemote 1.1 as the windows client, when i upgraded to 2.0 beta, it worked. NRD is up and running. Thanks!

[Ben S]

Hi folks -
Just posted a new version of NRD, which should have many of the issues fixed, along with a new system of storing loops, states and img vars so that you can have a name on a frame with loops or states, and also supporting "hidden" states when using Lua with buttons.

Thanks!

[kurtlewis]

Hi Ben- Hate to say it, but Animated gifs still do not work, it's the same issue as posted before-

Did clean install of new NRD, running 1.1 ccf format, NR v66

Putting the animated gif into the ccf works as expected, gives the prompt to use animation, then shows it in it's animated working state in the properites window.
Running it in NR shows a static image.
Opening up the saved ccf back in NRD shows the animation getting saved out as a ablock image of vertically stacked slides.

-i've attached the gif I'm trying out

[Ben S]

Interesting. I'm having problems running NR v66 with NRD 1.1 format on one of my testbed machines, and I'm wonder if they're related. I'll investigate today.

[Ben S]

Are you sure it's in NRD 1.1 format? Try changing it back to 1.0, then to 1.1 again and see if it works.

[kurtlewis]

well I found this really interesting...
I took my ccf and opened it back up in NRD. Checked the format, it showed 1.1. Then I looked at the animated gif I had specified to use in my NP list. It showed as having been 'converted' to a single static image comprised of slides- as expected, per my previous posts.

I saved the ccf with a different name, changed it back to 1.0 format. saved it, then saved it again to 1.1 format.
I deleted the gif and re-added it. Then I saved it and closed the ccf. I re-opened the ccf and amazingly the gif still animated in NRD. It should have been 'converted' to static like before but now it seemed like it was working.
so i opened up this one in NR. And now for the kicker... the NP list would not show any contents!

I opened up my original ccf in NR and the NP list showed up fine, with the static gif.
I think converting the ccf back to 1.0, then forward again to 1.1 farked up something. either that, or doing this now made the 1.1 format save correctly in NRD, and NR does not like the gif animation.

I am going to email you both of my ccf's to check out.
-version 1.8 is in 1.1 format and the animated gif has somehow been
made 'static', and the NP list shows up in NR.
-version 1.9 is a copy of 1.8 in 1.1, then I converted it to 1.0, then to 1.1.
This caused the NP list to not show anymore in NR for this ccf... but
opening 1.9 back up in NRD shows that it is now saving the gif animation
correctly.

I think you will have to look at these to really understand what I'm talking about...

[Ben S]

Hi folks - Just updated the installer for a few fixes and enhancements.

[kurtlewis]

Just installed new NR2 beta and new NRD

:D :D :D Animation now works :D :D :D

Thanks Ben, you rock!

[Ben S]

Great! Thanks!

[hk]

Hi Guys, where do I download Netremote 2,0 Beta? My NDR doesnt even start up after version 31??

Henrik

[MC Chod]

Same here, doesnt start I get the Nrd bootup screen but it just stays there. I'm reluctant to try the NR beta because last time I tried it on my ipaq 6340 it wouldn't boot either and I have my system nicely set at the moment. Oh well back to the previous NRD

[Ben S]

Hi guys -
NRD with NR 1.1 should work. If it doesn't this is a bug and will be corrected.

[hk]

OK thx than I guess we wait, NR 2 is way above my head...

[Ben S]

Hi folks - this is all set, please see the new release thread (http://www.promixis.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14361)