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Ron
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
That might be an good idea.
So the gui would only load if
it is needed and the core runs as
a background task, and thus be
smaller and faster.

I'll take it into consideration for
the design for 4.0

Ron

Ron
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Darmok wrote:
Would it be possible to hide the girder icon on the taskbar also, so that it wouldn't be as accessible? This way it wouldn't be as likely to be messed with by someone else using the computer.

anything is possble :) just have to think
about how the user that needs to access
girder gets to the interface

-Ron

Ron
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Well the startup speed of Girder has been improved significantly ( as of girder 3.0.22) And memory footprint has been a design factor all along, but its hard to do in delphi, i've gone trough great lenghts to destroy windows instead of hiding them ( capture, status etc..) as delphi does standard. Also i try to make the plugins as small as possible and not use any GUI libraries for them. Thats why some of the plugins look as crappy as they do.

Version 4.0 is still a long way off so don't hold your breath for that. :-)

- Ron

Ron
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Not currently but that is planned for the next version.

bodziak
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Maybe in next version of Girder the GUI shuld act only as client for Girder core. I mean that core will only read remote and execute action an will be as small and fast as possible (like Linux core). Then the GUI can be huge and sofiticated (like windoza)with thausands of wizards :-) :-)

But seriously. The plugin communication work well so way do not make the same for Girder core and Girder GUI ? Eg. in version 5.0

bodziak
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
RonB wrote:
That might be an good idea.
So the gui would only load if
it is needed and the core runs as
a background task, and thus be
smaller and faster.

I'll take it into consideration for
the design for 4.0
Ron

But do not forget loader feature. I mean:
1. There is small load&status.exe It launch background core of Girder. Show status Icon on task bar and has possibility to kill Girder core. So startup of girder will be fast
2. Girder GUI should be separete exe file.
And keep girder to work as application - do not convert if to driver. I'm angry when I must restart windows becourse one of the driver fails.

bodziak
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
theye wrote:
Running it as a service and configurable through the control panel would be nice. :)

Kind of gives it that built in feeling.

SERVICE - NO!!!!!!!!!!
if someting goes wrong (e.g. program hangup) - windoza say that srvice is runnig but you can't restart it. And what - you must restart your WinDOS

CapnMatt
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
A service! That would be MOST excellent!

Windows is just SCREAMING for a general purpose, pluggable, automation service!

The GREATEST part of using a service is that under NT based cores, the service would be available BEFORE login, which may or may not be useful to everyone... but opens up some more opportunities.

Darmok
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Would it be possible to hide the girder icon on the taskbar also, so that it wouldn't be as accessible? This way it wouldn't be as likely to be messed with by someone else using the computer.

Darmok
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Another possibility would be to be able to pasword protect the program, so if they click on the icon, it could bring up a password dialog to prevent any accidental modifications.

JeffK
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
mrijken wrote:
Is het possible to assign two or more IR codes toone command?

An easy workaround would be to just create a second command that does a GOTO, and assign your alternate IR code to that.

daliborl
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Hey that's an excellent idea, that would release quite a few resources (& memory - there's never enough RAM in Windows!), since configuration dialog would't be in memory all the time.

cheers,
Dalibor

Caffiend
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
You don't need to restart Windows in order to restart a service. In the event a service hangs, you simply use the service manager to restart it. I would love for girder to become a service with a GUI frontend. Then it wouldn't matter if my machine was logged in or not.

-will

mrijken
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Is het possible to assign two or more IR codes toone command?

theye
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Running it as a service and configurable through the control panel would be nice. :)

Kind of gives it that built in feeling.