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Mandark
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
hi there!

the solution with milkdrop is really great! i downloaded southypar's exported group (thanks by the way) and made some additions. such as up, down and enter to navigate the playlists and show both song title and song lenghth info with one keypress.
im also using the albumlist-plugin and now have a great jukebox. little tip: there seems to be a bug with milkdrop. when i change the album with albumlist while the tracklist in milkdrop is open, the tracklist doesnt change. i worked around this by making "next" and "prev album" into multigroups like this:
1. track list in milkdrop (p)
2. next or prev album in albumlist
3. track list in milkdrop (p) again
this way everytime i change an album the track list in milkdrop is closed and opened again (or opened and closed again if tracklist is closed at beginning) thus updating the tracklist.

what would be a great is, if there was a better way to browse a big playlist in milkdrop. scrolling down (repeatingly sending keypress-command "down") just takes too long if you have 1000 or more songs in the playlist.
is there a way to make the scrolling speed increase maybe with a plugin?! it would be cool, if it would scroll at normal speed in the beginning and after some seconds with increased speed (just like a vcr). such a "scrolling speed-plugin" would also be very handy with other applications!

-mandark

Mandark
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
BTW, how did you manage to add a one-click "show both song title and song lenght"? The trick with that (and the reason I didn't include it) is that while Display Song Title is a simple toggle, the Display Timing button is a three-phase thing: Show Elapsed Time, Show Elapsed Time + Song Length, and OFF.
that was a little tricky. i managed to do this by creating a multigroup like this:
1. Show Song Title (State Count: 2 / Begin State: 1)
2. Show Song Length (State Count: 2 / Begin State: 1)
3. Show Song Length (State Count: 2 / Begin State: 1)
4. Show Song Title (State Count: 2 / Begin State: 2)
5. Show Song Length (State Count: 2 / Begin State: 2)
this works fine.


Well there are plenty of ways to go about that (such as logarithmically increasing the amount of times the "Down" or "Up" key is sent to MilkDrop with each time, or using the "Button Mode" plugin (available on the download page) to send for example "Down" when you repeatedly press thr button, and to send "Page Down" when you hold down that same button.
the buttonmode plugin looks great, but i have a problem: when i hold down the button, the "down" command isn't repeated but carried out only once. after the held action delay is over the "page down" command can be carried out repeatedly ( there is the checkbox "repeat" for that). i would like, that "down" is executed repeatedly until the held action delay is over and then "page down" is executed repeatedly. i read in this forum that it should be possible, but have not found a way.
-> actually buttonmode v. 1.2.2 had the checkbox "repeat" also for the initial press. the actual version 1.3 doesn't have it. but 1.2.2 doesn't work with girder 3.2. i'll post a new thread about this problem.


I can dig up that script if you want, but I'll have to re-do it a bit and make it more user-friendly. It was great though, being able to watch MilkDrop from bed and be able to select a different album from a menu without even having to even leave the MilkDrop interface... ahhhhhh..... the pleasure :D
that would be a great addition! i would be interested, if it is not too much work for you.
the winamp/milkdrop/albumlist combo is really cool! my home entertainment system is getting even more comfortable. soon i wont even have to get out of bed at all. :D

-mandark

unimatrix
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Hi @ll!

I would like to know, what kind of mp3 player you use for your home theater PC. Winamp is a great player and it can be completly controlled by girder - but the user interface is not good for TV. I would like to have a player, which has a fullscreen mode, where you can see a little playlist, the title and the playtime.

Is such a program anywhere outthere?

Thanks,
Unimatrix

Mastiff
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
The answer is simple:

http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/download.html

I use that on my tv and projector as a player for both audio and some video files (for DVD's and the rest of the video files I use Zoom), and I'm very satisfied with it. It's got a 30 days free trial where you can test the "Plus" functions, and I ended up paying for it. :D

vynce
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
There is a Winamp plugin that does this. I haven't used it, so I don't know how good it is, but it looks like it is worth a try.

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml?componentId=20708

SouthyPar
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Well, if you want a complete fullscreen jukebox (that has your ordinary set of Jukebox features, like selected the wanted album, displaying Album cover etc...) than I suggest you check out the numerous threads on this subject on avsforum.com.

If you ONLY want a good looking interface that would show you Time\Title in a large font and also a nice looking interface for surfing your playlist then I'd highly recommend using MilkDrop as a frontend for Winamp.
MilkDrop is basically one of the best Visualization plugins for Winamp, and has some limited control functionalities (such as a nice playlist menu).

You can download version 1.03 from somewhere around www.winamp.com/plugins , and you can also get my Girder exported group for MilkDrop on the exported group page.

SouthyPar
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't recommend Winamp on TV, that's one extremely buggy lil proggy (I've heard lots of negative feedback about it, and my own experince with this program has been... ermmph... not good), but perhaps you should try it anyways to see if it works for you.

SouthyPar
October 13th, 2002, 01:55 PM
...made some additions. such as up, down and enter to navigate the playlists and show both song title and song lenght info with one keypress.

Hmmm, I initially had Up, Down and Enter on that group, but I think I must've deleted those before uploading, assuming that everyone has their own Up, Down, and Enter keys already configured.
BTW, how did you manage to add a one-click "show both song title and song lenght"? The trick with that (and the reason I didn't include it) is that while Display Song Title is a simple toggle, the Display Timing button is a three-phase thing: Show Elapsed Time, Show Elapsed Time + Song Length, and OFF.



what would be a great is, if there was a better way to browse a big playlist in milkdrop. scrolling down (repeatingly sending keypress-command "down") just takes too long if you have 1000 or more songs in the playlist.
is there a way to make the scrolling speed increase maybe with a plugin?! it would be cool, if it would scroll at normal speed in the beginning and after some seconds with increased speed (just like a vcr). such a "scrolling speed-plugin" would also be very handy with other applications!


Well there are plenty of ways to go about that (such as logarithmically increasing the amount of times the "Down" or "Up" key is sent to MilkDrop with each time, or using the "Button Mode" plugin (available on the download page) to send for example "Down" when you repeatedly press thr button, and to send "Page Down" when you hold down that same button.

As a matter of fact, I actually had once a solution which would allow you to display the Album List in MilkDrop instead of the PlayList menu. It worked by simply creating a playlist (m3u) with the names of the Albums from AL instead of the titled, and linking them all to a .wav file that contained simply 5 seconds of silence. Then, if I remember correctly, I used DVDSpy to determine which album has been selected, and sent that number into AlbumList via the SendMesssage plugin. The limitation of this solution (as I implemented it awhile ago) was that you could not open the Album List in MilkDrop's "Playlist Menu" and then decide to go back and not to select a different album - because Winamp's playlist was changed and I did not implement means to restore it.

I can dig up that script if you want, but I'll have to re-do it a bit and make it more user-friendly. It was great though, being able to watch MilkDrop from bed and be able to select a different album from a menu without even having to even leave the MilkDrop interface... ahhhhhh..... the pleasure :D

Sean
December 22nd, 2002, 08:37 AM
This is kind of a 'quick fix' but here's what I did:

* Installed Girder and the Winamp plugin.

* Opened up the playlist editor and hit 'Control-D' to double the size. Expanded this window to fill my entire TV screen. Minimized the main winamp window to 'windowshade mode' and put it up in the top right corner of the page.

Now when I fire up Winamp I get a full-screen display with all my playlists in a large, easy to read font. The bonus is you can use any skin you want with it.