TCP/IP plugin/client drives me crazyyyyyyy! Help!

[jediperry]

If you have "don't send IR commands when girder Froground..." selected in settings, the test command doesn't seem to work.

Would it be easy for you to change this behaviour Ron or is it intentional? Only a small niggle really.

Mike

[JayGuerette]

I think the unfortunate answer is that the v2.0 beta x TCP/IP server is incompatible with the v1.x client. :evil:

An updated client is in the works, but that doesn't help you now. You have two options:

1. Go back to the original TCP/IP server that came with Girder; and don't use the 'Quiet Mode' option in the 1.3 version.

2. Wait a day. Tonight I will add a 'Compatibility' option, that will allow the new server to work with older clients.

[JayGuerette]

The 'Quiet Mode' option disables all prompting from the server; it just waits for input. There are 2 resaons you would want this:

1. Security through obscurity. If someone 'stumble upon' the port Girder is listening on, they will have NO idea what it is or what input it's expecting.

2. Scripting. It's simply easier to write a script that outputs the right stuff without having to read replies.


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[JayGuerette]

If we're lucky, the kids will nap and I can put the 'Compatibility' mode in this afternoon.... :wink:

[JayGuerette]

2 & 4 here.... I find the hammer method not only makes them nap well, but also pretty compliant for the rest of the day... :smile:

[JayGuerette]

The extra security and obscurity features are really for those of us that use Girder at work, and would like to prevent their co-miscreants from taking over their computer.

The quiet mode is also good for scripting; I have a web-based Winamp control panel that sends commands to Girder and through to Winamp. Once I have a compatible client, then the posiibilities are endless...

[JayGuerette]

I posted TCP/IP Server Plugin v2.0 beta 5.

Added optional 'Compatibility Mode' to emulate a v1.x server.

When enabled, the server emulates the prompting of the v1.x server. This is for use with the tcpclient.exe program packaged with Girder, and any other interface that relies on the previous version's prompts and inputs.

Available at:
http://www.guerette.net/girder/

[JayGuerette]

Very strange indeed. I tested it and had no problem. I used clicked 'learn event' on one, and 'test command' on the other; and it worked. Subsequent 'test command' triggered the remote instance as expected... you're saying it works when triggered normally, but doesn't work when forced by 'test command'? Weird...

[JayGuerette]

It does appear to be true: if "Don't send..." is checked, "Test Command" doesn't work. I agree with 'jediperry' above that perhaps Ron should change this behavior.

[JayGuerette]

The upshot of your original root problem is that I'm all fired up to write a v2.0 TCP client plugin... :grin:

[Mastiff]

Hi!
I've got everything working here, except for the TCP/IP bit. When I try to use the action plugin or the tcpclient.exe, I get nothing. If I use telnet on the same computer, it works like nothing's happened. What can this be?!?!
I've tried changing passwords but to no avail. The computer I'm accessing has got the latest beta of the TCP/IP server and Windows ME, the one I'm trying to get it to work from has got the latest Girder, with both TCP/IP-plugin and tcpclient.exe, and it runs Windows 2000 Advanced Server. Can this be the problem? I'd really appreciate help, I've used two hours of my workday here, and if my wife ever finds that out, I'm dead! :wink:

[Mastiff]

Man, you're quick! :smile:
Thanks a lot, you've really saved me from scratching my head to the bone (most of my hair is gone, but that's hereditary and not software-related). OK, I'll wait for the compatibility mode, I think. Heck, I don't even know what this "quiet mode" is. Could you explain it, please? :smile:

And thanks a lot!

[Mastiff]

OK, I admit it! I'm weak! :wink:
I had to try with the older server, and the tcpclient.exe worked perfectly! Haven't had the chance to try the plugin yet, but I'm sure that will be just as good. Thanks again!

[Mastiff]

You mean to tell me that not all plugin developers are 19 year old students with all the time in the world? :wink:
I've got two of my own (4 & 5 years) and couldn't get them to nap now unless I hit them in the head with something very hard! >;->

[Mastiff]

Actually I prefer to hit one with the other. It supports the regular explanation:
"Honey, they were playing and collided. Don't believe them, I didn't do anything! Honest!"
:wink: But seriously, I've tested the plugin for TCP/IP now, and that too works flawlessly when I use 1.3 client. Also I read a bit about the quiet mode, but I suppose it doesn't bother me not to have it if I use the tcpclient.exe or the action plugin, right?

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Tor

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[Mastiff]

Thanks for the info. I'll leave you to take care of your kids and your plugin-baby. :smile:

[Mastiff]

Thanks!
I've downloaded it and I will test it this afternoon (better not use anymore work hours on this...)

[Mastiff]

Yessir, it works! But one thing is very strange with Girder: When I try "Test command" I can't get it to work. The only way I can test if the IR Action Plugin sends any messages to the server on the other pc is to use a third pc with tcpclient.exe and a batchfile to send the command to the main server and then see if it sends the command to the multimedia server (which it does). Is this normal, doctor? :wink:

[Mastiff]

Yes, it's weird. Haven't tried without the "Don't send..." box checked, though.