ir keyboard failure...

[Ron]

I'm afraid I can't help, the only thing you could try is getting a different remote to see if the IRman is broken. Maybe, just maybe you could try to download the Evation IRserver and Girder Evation plugin to see if this one helps. But i doubt it.

[SteveV]

rob,

In an earlier message, you indicated that you were using a Pronto. Are the codes that are giving you problems Philips RC5 or RC6 codes? If so, I had very similar problems to what you are describing when I was using the Pronto/Irman combo. You might want to take a look at this thread (http://www.girder.nl/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=145&forum=2).

In short, Irman gets confused and occasionally "sees" different RC5/RC6 codes as the same code. Unless you notice this, you end up teaching these "same" codes to multiple Girder commands. So when Girder sees an IR string that has been taught to multiple commands, it will execute all of the commands--one after another. You should be able to check this fairly easily by looking at Girder's "dot matrix" display for your a, l, and s commands. If the display shows the same string, it's a pretty safe bet that the Irman is decoding the Pronto RC5/RC6 codes incorrectly.

I did find that lowering the "IR Speed" setting in File=>Settings=>Hardware Plugins=>UIR/IRman=>Settings helped quite a bit. The bad news is that changing this setting requires that you re-teach (Learn Event) all Girder Commands/MultiGroups.

Also, my communication with Evation (Irman) tech support was largely unsuccessful. They were helpful and responsive but determined that this was an issue with Irman's capability and could offer no solution other than to graciously offer to refund my money.

Hope this helps!

Regards -- Steve

[Yvonus]

Rob ; with the Pronto, I believe you'll see the full ir sequence that needs to be sent.

The "ir code" you see when you do "Learn event" is a "key" that is returned by the plugin when receiving an ir code.

That should explain why the sequence learnt by Girder is shorter than the hex you can enter in a pronto.

For your specific problem, do several time a "learn event" with the same key. Is the code received always the same or does it change ?

[Mark F]

To help debug this, you might install the logger plugin (from the download page) and look at the events that are being generated in Girder. This might pinpoint something that is not currently obvious.

I clueless as to the cause. Sorry.

[oe1k]

If you are getting multiple key presses, you might just need to use the "Antirepeat wait time (ms)" and set it so that it waits 250ms (or whatever) before accepting another key press.

[rob]

Hi, i'm a dutch newbie at using girder. I understand a lot of it but i've got a little problem with a ir keyboard i have. It was for internet television, now i have bought the Irman receiver for my pc. I learned every code from a to z, but when i press the a on the keyboard he will type several letters at the same time. When i look at the ir code it seems the same. I do not understand why that is because it works fine on the televisionset it belonged to.

THANX in advance.

[rob]

Sorry i think i was not clear enough. I think in dutch but i must type in english :smile:.
The problem is that when i press the "a" the letters "l" and "s" are also typed, so when i press the "a" button "als" is displayed.
So it looks like they have the same ir code. That is not possible afcourse because every button must have a different ircode, but it looks in girder if they have the same code so girder will execute everthing with the same code if i press one button. I'm not an expert at ir codes but when i use the program for my "pronto" remote the ir sequences are much longer than how i see it in girder. In girder it's a small code and in pronto it is the sequence of numbers.

Thanx anyway for your previous answers.

[rob]

I will have to check this to be sure, i can not reply earlier than monday what happened.
I'll let you know....thx

[rob]

I'm using a ir keyboard from a webtv set.(see first thread) Sure i want to use the Pronto in the near future so the knowlegde is not for nothing. Thanks for that, but first i want to understand more about girder. I already read a lot of the general topics... i'm still learning.

I just wanted to know how Girder handled the ir codes because you only see one code like "580000000000" for example.
The pronto gives you the whole code:
0000 0067 0000 0022 0155 00ac 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0040 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 003f 0016 0015 0016 0040 0016 003f 0016 0040 0016 0015 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0015 0016 0040 0016 0015 0016 003f 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0040 0016 003f 0016 0040 0016 003f 0016 0040 0016 003f 0016 0040 0016 041a

Can it has something to do with RC5 or RC6 codes, even if it is a ir keyboard???? I could not see it on the keyboard, but when i slow down the ir speed the problem is still there.

I also tried to learn the code several times like Yvonus told me but the codes are the same every time.

OK here an example of the letters a, l and s.

a:
code in yellow digits(learn event):
58000000000
code right site at the bottom(key sent):
5cc000000000
4c00000


l:
code in yellow digits(learn event):
58000000000
code right site at the bottom(key sent):
5a6000000000
300000000000
4c00000


s:
code in yellow digits(learn event):
58000000000
code right site at the bottom(key sent):
5cc000000000
5300000

As you can see the learned code is the same, so it will execute it every time. But when it is learned and you send the key, the code will change(right below in girder) but never is shown as "580000000000".

Is there somebody who knows what the problem could be.... if not i will kick the keyboard in two peaces because i became one year older the last week :smile:.

THANX

[rob]

Is there really nobody who can tell me something about this. Am i the first person with this problem ?

[rob]

If even you do not have a clue, i certainly do not need to waist more time at this problem :sad:.
I already tested other remotes and the problem is only with the ir keyboard which works fine on my tv. I give up.

Thanks anyway.

Rob