My remote never sends the same values ...

[Ron]

Very, extremely unlikely as to the point of impossible. The decoding is done within the plugins. Something that Girder doesn't care about. It just receives the event strings and takes it from there. So if something changed it is in the plugins.

[Ron]

IrDA will not give good result most of the time, there are only very few people that get it working okay. So DO NOT EXPECT IRDA TO WORK FOR REMOTE RECEPTION.

UIR/IrMAN, if you are having troubles with this one, then try the Evation IRserver, available at their homepage.

[Ron]

Maybe you can ask the Evation guys if this is a known problem with that remote. But since it does receive at close range it might be a defective irman...

[Wykat]

Hi,

since nobody else can give you an answer, 2 notes from my side;

1) IRDA is different from the standard used by remote control devices. This can cause your experience that you receive different codes.

2) Some remote controls do send different signals each time the same button is send. (I think it is a kind of anti repeat). In this case however you should get only 2 different signals.

rgrds,
Wykat

[Mastiff]

Weird, since I have had the opposite problem: When my IR repeater was positioned too close to the IRMan, the codes went all over the place. But when I let the signals bounce of a wall, no more problems. It really sounds like a bad IRMan, yes.

[jcase]

Since this problem seems to be more common now then in the past (or so it seems) could there have been a change within the code of Girder that could be causing this.

Just a thought...

[Shadow007]

I'm a new user with Girder. I've bought an IRDA receiver from WEXIM (wexim.com), and it seems to work : when I use the remote in direction of the receiver, it gets the signal, but the values are never the same.

I guess it comes from the port configuration, but I don't see how I can solve the problem.

I run on a Win98 PC, with a ABIT KT7 motherboard.

Anyone have a clue ???

[Shadow007]

Maybe it's Sony's fault then : my remote is also a Sony one ...

I'll test with other remotes to check that.

[Shadow007]

After a check (and using an universal remote), I still fail to get constant values using the remote ... Does anyone have a clue ??

[eudel]

I have the same problem!
I use IRMAN amd everytime I press a button on my remote (SONY RM-836) I get a different code! This sometimes confuses girder and executes a command different than the one given but it doesn't happen often!
Is it a matter of remote control?
I think that each button has two codes, as you mentioned, so it must be the remote's fault.

[Mooneyass]

I'm having the same problem with my PalmIIIe and OmniRemote. It keeps sending different codes each time. The remote I captured the codes from doesnt send multiple codes. I guess it must be a OmniRemote issue...

[apai]

hi ppl,

I had the same kind of problem. It had try all other remote control on and irda receiver but it seems that T can't get the constant values for the same key.

So what did I do to make girder to learn each button with it's on values is by:-
a. set the baud rate in irda setting between 330 to 600.
b. don't press the remote button to long.

Sometimes it does execute other command but it has less mistake. Accurancy 85%.
Try it!

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[Havox]

I've experienced the same problem with Packard Bell Fast Media controller. While my TV remote control sends always the same signal -but only once- the PB control can send a stream of signals, which will keep the same as long as I hold the button, but will slightly change if I press it again.

[Acolyte57]

I use a universal remote with an IRman receiver and have had the same problems you have described; the remote would send signals that changed every time you pressed the button, sometimes switching between 2 signals but often sending completely random signals that changed every time I pressed a button. I at first thought this was a problem with the irserver or girder.

And then, when I had the remote randomly select a different set of RC signals, it suddenly worked perfectly.

Since the universal remote I use works by emulating a set group of standard RC signals from different brands, that means that there are some brands of electronic equipment manufacturers which use this completely weird way of sending signals, I guess...

[nuanda]

As apai says

Regarding the use of IrDA receivers:
Turning down the baud rate seems to help. Also, the codes became more uniform when I turned off flow control on the serial port.

[nuanda]

I've found that I have the exact same problem with IRMan. It seems unable to consistantly interperate IR commands or to distinguish between similar IR commands

[glorydog]

I am having a similar problem with omniremote. When used as a remote directly, such as controlling my television, onmiremote works 100% of the time. When used on girder, it works only 70% of the time, with the remaining key presses being interpreted as random codes. Some IR codes work much more reliably than others, but I don't understand the pattern yet. A real remote (omniremote being a palm device that uses bitmap sampling to produce output via the IRDA port) always works 100% with Girder. I gather from this thread it may have something to do with "priority". I use WinXP pro, what do I do to increase reliability?

[deadboy]

I had the same problem using the packard bell fast media remote. The problem seems to have fixed itself after I tried using my tv remote for a few minutes. after that my packard bell remote sent the same command every time I hit the button.

[deadboy]

Hmm, it must be some kind of calibration problem. I just installed my remote on my laptop and sure enough I had the same problem of the remote Never sending the same command twice. Then I pointed my VCR remote at it, hit a few random buttons, and then tried my pb remote again.. and boom it works PERFECT everytime 100%.... Wierd...

[deadboy]

Nevermind. it made a lier out of me. My desktop still works fine. but my laptop was not effected. it sill recieves random codes.

[shear]

yes. for this:


I use a universal remote with an IRman receiver and have had the same problems you have described; the remote would send signals that changed every time you pressed the button, sometimes switching between 2 signals but often sending completely random signals that changed every time I pressed a button. I at first thought this was a problem with the irserver or girder.

And then, when I had the remote randomly select a different set of RC signals, it suddenly worked perfectly.

Since the universal remote I use works by emulating a set group of standard RC signals from different brands, that means that there are some brands of electronic equipment manufacturers which use this completely weird way of sending signals, I guess...

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I've found that I have the exact same problem with IRMan. It seems unable to consistantly interperate IR commands or to distinguish between similar IR commands

I am having the EXACT same problems. WinXP+Girder3.1+IRMAN+IRMAN Plugin+Stadard Tivo remote.

I routinely get different codes depending on the number of inches I am from the IRMAN. It seems to be dead accurate at 1 inch. Then @ 1 foot its all over the place.

Very frustrating. I bought a Home Theater Master MX500 for learning all the codes to control my home theater through Girder...Now i've pretty much given up.

I think its IRMAN. Maybe theres a better IR device. Anyone know which are might be generally more reliable?

[amoniak]

For Shadow, I bought the irda at WEXIM too, and it work very well. I use the "generic serial support" plugin from Mark Fiechtner (Thanx to him for the plugin). I don't know if that can help you.

[JBrad]

I've also been suffering from "never the same code twice" problem. I tried configuring the serial ports every way possible and still no joy so i tried serialwatcher and saw that i was getting com1 activity when i should'nt be.

After messing with windows for a couple of hours i was ready to start breaking things and in a fit of desperation i moved my ir sensor from under my monitor to a couple of feet away and voila! No more rogue com1 activity and girder now learns the same code everytime. Bizarre :-?

I'm using WinXP, Girder 3.2.4, I.R.A, Irman plugin, Pronto.