View Full Version : Support for higher screen resolutions!!!!!!
z.mash
February 14th, 2003, 09:23 AM
I know this is more of a Tonto issue than NetRemote, but I am putting in the (formal) request!
-Zak
Ben S
February 14th, 2003, 08:29 PM
Should be coming soon, Zak. I sent another email off to Stewart this evening, and he's been swamped with other projects, but says he hopes to have something to me shortly.
I'm more excited about 16/24/32 bit images, however. :)
mrallen
February 14th, 2003, 10:18 PM
Ok, I got the custom screen size stuff coded up (in an email to you, mr wicked). This weekend I'll work on 32 bit images with alpha support.
On a slight tangent, what's the interest in doing network updates of ccf's? I've been playing with Rendezvous (OS X) as part of another Java project and it's quite easy to add. The way I picture it is that a remote that's also on a wireless lan could find CCF servers using Rendezvous and update remotely. I could add the code to Tonto to be a CCF network server.
mrallen
February 15th, 2003, 05:14 PM
OK, I've got a working version with customizable panel sizes and 32-bit alpha images. And I've got to say the alpha support looks sweet. Once Ben blesses it, I'll post it on the Tonto website.
z.mash
February 15th, 2003, 08:32 PM
Wow! Awesome! Thank you! I can't wait!!!!
Ben S
February 17th, 2003, 05:39 PM
Thanks Stewart! Works like a charm!
In the next revision (0.975), both 24 bit images and custom screen sizes will be supported.
Alpha transparency will, unfortunately, -not- be supported until I rewrite the rendering part of NetRemote. Although I'd love to have alpha support, I think some other issues are higher priority right now.
To support larger ccfs, the skin file has a new setting.
[Master]
Window=240,320
This configures the size of the window on Win32. The default is 240x320. Pocket PC is (obviously) restricted to 240x320 for now.
z.mash
February 17th, 2003, 05:44 PM
Man, I wish we had 2 feet of snow every day! Who knows what NetRemote and Tonto would be capable of then!
Ben/Stewart - Thanks for getting this out so quickly. This truly moves NetRemote to the head of the class. Let me know what needs to be done in Tonto to create a custom-sized CCF and I will update the documentation.
Thanks,
Zak
mrallen
February 18th, 2003, 12:46 PM
Tonto 1.42 was just posted. This supports a new 'custom' CCF type. You can start building your new CCF's in anticipation of the upcoming NetRemote release. No pressure, Ben. :-)
brohebus
February 18th, 2003, 03:08 PM
Tonto 1.42 was just posted. This supports a new 'custom' CCF type. You can start building your new CCF's in anticipation of the upcoming NetRemote release. No pressure, Ben. :-)
Stewart,
Not sure where to post this, so I figured I'd start here.
I took a quick look at Tonto 1.42 over lunch. The Alpha transparencies look great!
One bug/limitation to report so far: You still cannot have Frame or Button containing an image larger than 300x300 pixels; you get an error. The makes it tough to create a background image that takes up the whole screen without resorting to slices.
And a feature request: It would be nice to have the option of selecting 'transparent' as a background colour for frames/buttons.
Looking good though.
-Dave
mrallen
February 18th, 2003, 03:13 PM
the 300x300 limitation is a carryover from the days when I was debugging corrupt CCF's. I guess with the new screen sizes this is pretty obsolete. I'll remove the limitation in the next build. I will look at the best way of supporting transparency on buttons and frames. from what Ben says, NetRemote will not support transparency right away and I don't want to get too far ahead :-)
z.mash
February 18th, 2003, 07:11 PM
This is great! Incidentally, buttons can be resized to any dimensions. One minor issue that arose is that there are no scroll bars on the right side of Tonto. When I create a 800x600 panel on my XGA desktop, there are parts of the panel that I cannot access. Any chance of getting a couple of scroll bars?
Thanks,
Zak
mrallen
February 18th, 2003, 07:19 PM
There's a problem with the JDesktopPane and JScrollPane's. Sooo, that makes it hard to add scrollbars. I've located a workaround, but it's a lot of code and will require some time to integrate.
Ben S
February 18th, 2003, 08:57 PM
No pressure, Ben. :-)
None at all. 0.975 is now available, supporting Stewart (of Tonto Fame)'s cool new features.
Stewart, do you have a forum setup somewhere for Tonto issues? Do you want an area here for Tonto/NetRemote integration?
brohebus
February 18th, 2003, 09:05 PM
No pressure, Ben. :-)
None at all. 0.975 is now available, supporting Stewart (of Tonto Fame)'s cool new features.
.975 is available :shock: ...where??
-Dave
mrallen
February 18th, 2003, 09:07 PM
perhaps a forum would be useful.
while we're at it, it's somewhat difficult to install NetRemote without a Windows server to sync against (can't unzip and can't copy files from a web server --- don't ask). any suggestions?
Ben S
February 18th, 2003, 09:13 PM
.975 is available :shock: ...where??
Sorry. Didn't know where to put it. Links are in a thread in the General Discussion forum. Enjoy!
while we're at it, it's somewhat difficult to install NetRemote without a Windows server to sync against (can't unzip and can't copy files from a web server --- don't ask). any suggestions?
Uh oh! Do you have network connectivity to the Pocket PC?
mrallen
February 18th, 2003, 09:21 PM
sure. the ipaq has built-in 802.11. I'm surfing the web. but the pocket pc doesn't have an unzip function and when I tried to d-load each file w/ the browser, it didn't provide the option to select a download location and the dll's are hidden (gotta love how windows hides the important stuff from us stupid users). with no command line, i'm screwed :-(
mrallen
February 18th, 2003, 09:54 PM
ok, got activesync working with windows booted under vmware. this can stop being my personal support thread now. thanks.
brockgr
February 18th, 2003, 10:04 PM
You could use the "File Explorer" and mount a Samba share (third icon at the bottom of the explorer). Just have the files uncompressed on there first.
There are also some FTP clients out there.
Gavin
brohebus
February 18th, 2003, 10:34 PM
ok, got activesync working with windows booted under vmware. this can stop being my personal support thread now. thanks.
Brock's suggestion is probably the easiest. The only time I bother with Activesync is when I'm required to with an installer. Otherwise, I just pull everything off a share. Incedentally, you may want to look at one of the PPC zip utils out there too.
-Dave
mrallen
February 19th, 2003, 12:21 AM
everything is working now. thanks!
In more important news, there is a bug in Tonto 1.42 that will materially affect your use of NetRemote. Please see my post under the NetRemote 0.975 announcement thread.
QuickCarl
February 23rd, 2003, 11:11 AM
How do I set the panel size for "Custom" CCF's
I have Tonto 1.422 installed and am exploring madly, but can't seem to find the place where i can set the size of panels for CCF's
Not sure how large to make it, think 1024X768 to match full screen mode on my laptop...wondering if I should go 'skinless' or reduce the size and come up with some decent grahics for the top and bottom....
Sure is a LOT of space for jsut a few buttons, though... TIA -Carl
brohebus
February 23rd, 2003, 12:30 PM
How do I set the panel size for "Custom" CCF's
I have Tonto 1.422 installed and am exploring madly, but can't seem to find the place where i can set the size of panels for CCF's
Create a new CCF by selecting File>New with Type>Custom
Then, go to the CCF tree on the left hand side of the screen and open the System>Properties dialogue. You'll see the Panel Size settigns there.
I don't know if you can convert a standard CCF to a custom size though. Stewart, care to chime in?
-Dave
mrallen
February 23rd, 2003, 12:54 PM
you can convert any type to any other type, including custom. but I would hold off on investing a lot of time into the custom type other than to experiment because 1.43 will break backward compatibility with the custom format in 1.42 (just this once to fix hard button issues -- promise).
QuickCarl
February 23rd, 2003, 01:29 PM
To both Dave and Stweart....
Don't know how I missed that...I hit that sequence at least 10 tens, just didn't see the size definition.... man...
This is gonna rock!
z.mash
February 23rd, 2003, 03:26 PM
Sure is a LOT of space for jsut a few buttons, though... TIA -Carl
Yeah, but it is *very* easy to fill it up! (sorry for the large pix)
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3fgvv/NR_MJ1.gif
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3fgvv/NR_LDJ1.gif
QuickCarl
February 23rd, 2003, 03:57 PM
You are going down the same path that I want to....just a few steps ahead...LOL
I'm looking forward to Tonto V 1.43 so that I can get min PC setup working like I want. Not sure if you saw the message from Stewart that 1.422 'custome' CCF's would not be forward compatible....
May look at get Mainlobby to have some professional looking graphics for my PC setup.
Thanks for posting you inspirational screenshots. -Carl
z.mash
February 23rd, 2003, 04:06 PM
I saw Stewart's post, but I should be able to copy and paste buttons and frames containing buttons to reuse some of what I have done. Is that right Stewart?
Even if not, the hard part is figuring out how to do the configuration. Once the learning curve is gone, it doesn't take too long to redo.
If you are interested, here is the CCF, GML, and skin (http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3fgvv/LUA_DVD_Jukebox.zip) I used.
-Zak
QuickCarl
February 23rd, 2003, 04:18 PM
Same one I am using Zak.
I just decided to go slow whn I saw Stewart's message. -Carl
z.mash
February 23rd, 2003, 04:25 PM
This is the CCF I customized to create the screens above. Also, the GML has 12 Genres per page as opposed to 6. That, plus the fact that it is 640x480 and it contains MJ, are the main differences b/w my CCF/GML combo and Gavin's template.
-Zak
QuickCarl
February 23rd, 2003, 05:38 PM
I will download it and take a look see. Thanks for your hard work. -Carl
brockgr
February 23rd, 2003, 06:11 PM
Uh-oh "& apos;" - I guess my XML parser is not up to scratch :( . Still that all looks very cool Zak!
BTW, what is the "refresh" button? Does it rescan the DVD's?
Gavin
mrallen
February 23rd, 2003, 06:26 PM
I can't guarantee that 1.422 custom ccf's will open in 1.43 (but I'm working on it). This is because the device layout has to change in order to accomodate a new set of hard buttons. Once Ben and I have settled on which buttons to include, I can put out 1.43.
z.mash
February 23rd, 2003, 06:51 PM
QuickCarl- I think we are looking at the same end goal. I'm going to use the PPC until I can a powerful enough tablet to run a larger screen version of NR.
Gavin- "Refresh" is the same as the "Exit" button from your CCF. It refreshes the DVD listing after selecting Genres. Since I don't have a separate Genres screen, it didn't make sense to call it "Exit" anymore. I meant to mention the apostrophe issue but kept forgetting.
Stewart - I am fully anticipating that my CCF will not work, so I am not spending any time on making it look like I want. Thanks to your program, I can quickly recreate everything (copy/paste of actions is fantastic!).
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