New Version Announcement Thread - 0.99rc4

[Ben S]

That's right! I found a new way to delay 1.0! I'll keep making release candidates (like Microsoft) until 0.99 is stable! Please read this whole list of changes, as some options have been changed or are currently disabled. Many items will require some more info from me, or documentation update. Please see the demo .ccf included in the release (specifically in the Media Jukebox section) for examples.

0.99 rc2 is ready for download. A warning: This version is -guaranteed- to not be stable. It is using a whole new method of feedback that I'll need help making stable. I want to get something into your collective hands so you can start playing. As 0.9831 is pretty darn stable, you might want to stick with that until we've verified stability if you're going to mind a few hiccups.

Win32 Installer (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-Win32-0.99rc2.exe)
PPC2k2 Installer (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-PPC2002-0.99rc2.exe)
PPC2k Installer (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-PPC2000-0.99rc2.exe)
Zipped PPC2k2 CAB (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-PPC2002-0.99rc2.zip)

This release has probably the largest changes in NetRemote history.

Major Changes
*) Changed feedback mechanism to be more centralized. Feedback is now tied to button and frame names by enclosing a string in braces. IE: {MP.Zone} will display the value of the MP.Zone variable.
*) Changed MediaCenter communication to use new NRPI protocol interface. This is a streamlined "stay-alive" bidirectional protocol. NetRemote will "post events" to MediaCenter, and MediaCenter will add the results of the post to a queue. This new protocol has a few nice new features, as well.
*) Changed basic way skins interact with custom ccf. By default, a custom ccf -will not- use a skin. Thus a skin can be defined and used with TSU6000 or RC9200 type ccfs, and not be used with a custom ccf, but you can toggle between the types without enabling/disabling a skin. There is a new cfg option to enable skin's with custom ccfs.
*) Multiple instances of drivers supported. To do this, select the "available driver" in the top (or left on Win32) combo box, and click "Add". You will be prompted to config the new instance. New drivers start at ID -1000. You can change the ID by changing the ID in the text box, and clicking Set ID. Note that an ID change will require restarting NetRemote.
*) Added embeddable web browser to Win32 version. This actually works better than the PPC2k2 version, as the PPC2k2 version does not support back, forward, or refresh currently.
*) Buttons can be displayed with STATE. A button can be on or off, and uses the "active" and "inactive" graphics/colors from Tonto.
*) Sliders are now supported. A slider can have a thumb and up/down arrows.
*) 32 bit images now supported on Win32. I'll see what I can do to support them in PPC2k2, but it most likely will not be until after a 1.0 release.
*) App is becoming more MFC'ized. You won't see this, but you'll feel it. I'm encapsulating more code into MFC, which should increase stability.

Medium Changes
*) Media Center tree now uses font size specified in button.
*) Media Center supports small,medium,large, and xtra large image download. Selectable in the MC Config. (May not be currently implemented in Media Center build 162)
*) Driver model finalized for 1.0. I will be releasing an SDK for driver development in the next few days.
*) Some bugs relating to switching ccfs have been resolved
*) Increased performance of fullscreen mode

Items Changed/Disabled
*) Media Center specific feedback - Disabled - Use general feedback mechanism with Media Center specific variable names.
*) Girder specific feedback - Disabled - Use general feedback mechanism with any variable names.
*) Library navigation covers in MC - Disabled - will be reenabled shortly.

That's about it, for now. There are some more things I want to do with feedback and variable usage, and if they are minor they may happen during bug fixing of 0.99. I will be posting my items that I want included in a 1.0 release for comments.

Thanks everyone!
-Ben

[MikeM]

Ben, thanks for the new version! This version seems to hang quite a bit, esp after selecting some hardkeys. Going through and relearning the hard keys doesn't seem to fix the problem. I have to reset the Axim to clear the fault.

Also, the IR code issue with passthrough is still there, and I should probably also mention that I have another problem with passthrough on the slinke that is quite strange, though not new for this version. I have on my CCF home page an all on and all off button. I start with the reciever first, then a 200 ms delay, then the DVD player and then the CD. When I first do an all on, the receiver comes on reliably, but the DVD and CD do not. If I hit the all on sequence a 2nd time, the DVD will then come on, but not the CD. If I hit the all on sequence 3 or 4 times, the CD will also evntually come on. The same sort of thing happens when turning devices off.

I thought this was an issue of delay, but going from 100 to 200 ms doesn't help. I'm going to go to 500 ms delay and see if that corrects it, but was wondering if you knew what the problem could be? Does the slink-e somehow jam when it's hit with a rapid stream of commands?

Thanks,
Mike

[Mastiff]

Ben, what's the changes in the new Remote Server that's with MC 163, just ready for download? Matt listed that as one of the changes, but no specifics. Thanks!

[Ben S]

Looks like the issue with image sizing not "taking" with MediaCenter is resolved in that version (build 163). 162 used the new protocol, but all images were always Xtra large (which would literally choke the PPC).

Definitely get 163 if you plan on controlling Media Center.

Mike - Does it hang immediately after selecting a hard key? Is this using the demo ccf that comes with the installer? Could you tell me precisely which keys?

Grog sent me a .ccf and .cde file for the Denon 3802/3803 series, so I am going to do some debugging of the slinke. When this works, I will create a button that does several power on's and see what happens. It shouldn't jam, but it's possible that it's a threading issue. Thanks for the heads up.

[Mastiff]

Ben, I have the dissappearing NetRemote problem on this version as well. Was that one of the bugs you thought you had squashed, or is it still outstanding?

[QuickCarl]

For the unfamiliar (including me) just where is MC build 163 located. On their site the only downloads that i see are still labeled build 161....

TIA
Carl

[Mastiff]

In the Interact beta forums - it is up to 164 now.

[QuickCarl]

Now just where would that be...LOL Do you think someone could help out a newbie or a dummy with link??? :?

[QuickCarl]

Here is the link ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter90164.exe

HTH-Carl

[sdellutri]

I just started to experiment with the new version.
Looks really great!!!

Where can I get the slider_test.gml to experiment with the new slider control?

Also, I have observed that whenever you push the Wake PC button on the Win32 version, you get a MS VC++ Runtime Library error for Buffer overrun detected, and then netremote shuts down.

[kanman]

I just tried to install the win32 version of 99rc2. When it started up I received an error that it could not locate the MFC70.dll library (I have found this DLL to download but I wasn't sure if you wanted to know about the possible problem.)

Version .982 was running fine - I unistalled version.982 shutdown all running programs including virus scan - the install went fine until it went to start Netremote, then the error displayed. I have Windows 2000 SP3, Athlon 1.4 and 256 meg ram...let me know if I have not done a needed part of the installation or if I should just but the MFC70.dll file into a certain directory...

Thanks

Kevin

[QuickCarl]

Same experience as Kanman... posted in the Bug Report area...

Did a search for the DLL, not anywhere...

[sdellutri]

I am using the Win32 version in skinless mode, and have set the master, device, and macro templates to the pronto style.

When I navigate from the home page to a device or a macro page, the title of that device or macro is properly displayed, however, when I then select another device or macro from the device or macro button, the navigation goes to the correct page, but the title does not get updated.

[Promixis]

Same here with the win32 version. Missing the dll. I found one on the web and installed it. Then NR wouldn't crash - can't remember exact error message.

With the PC2 version, I can see connections to the MC WebRemote but I cannot control anything....

Mike

[Eiffel]

Try this version of the .dll, as it seems to be working on Win2k and XP

http://anyd.rulez.cz/temp/mfc70/

(copy the resulting mfc70.dll file in either Win32 or Windows, depending on your OS)

[MikeM]

Ben, here's some more info on the hardkeys problem. If I use the Netremote Sample CCF and map the 4 main hardkeys (far left, left, right and far right), everything seems to work ok. If I try and map any functions to the center "joystick" or the side toggle on my axim, it seems to hang.

I then went back to my CCF and didn't map the side toggle, but did the center "joystick", and it still hung. When I only mapped the 4 hard buttons, it doesn't hang, but netremote disappears. I think this what others are seeing, but there is a netremote window header up top, but completely transparent below it. The window body dissappears. When I try and restart it, it shows up in the same way, even after a reset, so I can't reconfigure it to another configuration.

Some of this may be related to the Axim - have other Axim users seen problems with hardkeys? Is this more a less standard in how PPC2002 deals with keys?



Thanks,
Mike

[Promixis]

Mike,

I haven't been able to get the latest version of NR to talk to MC. I am also using an Axim. I have the girder link working fine. Just wondering if you have any suggestions for trouble shooting. In the web remote pluging I can see that there is a connection but nothing else happens on the Axim....

Mike

[Ben S]

MikeM, I will take a look at the hard keys. They are working fine for me on my Axim, so I'm thinking it might be something related to the action
associated with the button. Does it hang ona specific device/panel?

Mike, the new version will -only- work with Media Center build 163 or newer. You should not be using the WebRemote plugin, you should be using the RemoteServer that is built into MediaCenter. You can enable it via Tools/Options/Startup Settings.

Sdellutri, can you send me your ccf so I can take a look? I will upload slider_test.gml this evening. I meant to do that, thanks for the reminder.

Mastiff, I thought I fixed that, I thought it was related to a threading issue which I fixed. I'll need to focus more on that and figure out what's happening.

All, Sorry about the .dll. I thought msvcr70 would cover it. I am going to make a "supporting dll" zip that has msvcr70 and mfc70 in it (to minimize the Win32 installer size) and make that available. These can either go in your Windows System32 directory (I think) or directly in the NetRemote folder.

[Ben S]

When I navigate from the home page to a device or a macro page, the title of that device or macro is properly displayed, however, when I then select another device or macro from the device or macro button, the navigation goes to the correct page, but the title does not get updated.

Argh! I can't believe this bug is still here. The buttons (at the bottom) nor the title changes right now! Argh!

I'm going to fix this so that the names are using internal "feedback" variables instead of the NRBasic specific "alias" to the device name. Coming up in rc3 (late tomorrow evening, most likely).

Also, WOL -was- broken, and is now fixed. In RC3.

Thanks for the heads up!

[Promixis]

Thanks Ben, I am now up and running.

I hope some you guys with more experience will upload your ccf's so us newbies can steal your ideas :)


Mike

[Ben S]

I have made 0.99rc3 available as updates to the Win32 and PPC2k2 versions.

Win32 (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-Win32-0.99rc3-update.zip)
PC2k2 (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-PPC2002-0.99rc3-update.zip)

Fixes/Changes
*) WakeOnLan Driver fixed (Thanks sdellutri)
*) Device/Panel name and hard key names now displayed using variable system, fixing the jump between devices issue. (Thanks sdellutri)
*) MC driver now populates MP.HostName variable. The new demo ccf uses this in the host popup.
*) Win32 version finally correctly remembers the last location of NetRemote when you restart. If (like me) you have two monitors, but one is turned off sometimes, hit alt-space with NetRemote alt-tabbed to, hit M, and then use the arrow keys to move NetRemote into view.
*) A new registry key "DefaultHost" is being read and used as the default host for new drivers. There is no way to set this from the app yet, but just in case you decide to fool around, there you go.
*) Update includes new demo .gml file to test the girder slider.
*) Uh. That's it for now.

My plan is to release "release candidates" until 0.99 is stable and a good base to do the final push to 1.0. How does that sound?

Anyway, get it while it's hot. The items I have on my plate to debug are:

*) NetRemote "flashing" like it's starting, but then going away.
*) Infrared (sending from NRIRServ)
*) Possible issues with hardkeys.

Anyone else find anything yet?

[sdellutri]

Thanks for the update!
Unfortunately, the win32 zip file does not contain the EXE file, only the DLLs, ccf, and gml.
The PocketPC2002 zip has the exe.

[Eiffel]

I'm probably missing something obvious... is there a plug-in to load with Girder, or some LUA script to use to enable the feedback in Girder?

(rc2 works fine with MC9.0, but I have no idea how to get the new feedback to work with girder...)

Thanks

[Ben S]

Unfortunately, the win32 zip file does not contain the EXE file, only the DLLs, ccf, and gml.


Duh. I've fixed it and reuploaded. Wonder how that happened?

Eiffel - You'll need Gavin's feedback code. You can get a package from the user downloads area of this site, but I believe you'll also need the lua plugin. Gavin can probably chime in. I should set this up "from scratch" again so that I can provide better answers.

[sdellutri]

I updated to the rc3 on Win32. The problem that I reported earlier about the device name not changing is still not corrected, although the behavior is different. Now, no matter which device I select, it just indicates 'Device Name', and not the title of my device. Additionally, the hard button labels are now always displayed with 'Far Left', 'Left', 'Right', 'Far Right'.

In addition to this problem, the first time I ran the app it took some time to get NetRemote visible on my screen. Maybe this is due to the initial position being left on the second display of a multi monitor system or left close to the bottom of a high resolution display. I finnally right clicked on the task bar, and chose move, and then used my up and left arrow keys to bring the window into the viewable desktop area (I am using an XGA 1024x768 display).

[Ben S]

Take a look at the new ccf. The change to the device name, etc. requires changes to the ccf.

[sdellutri]

UPDATE: Looks like the device names and hard button lables work properly in the sample but not in my CCF. Upon further examination, it looks like the button names for the device name and hard button lables have changed from 'Left' to '{NR.Left}' with the latest version.

After updating all of the templates in my CCF to the latest format, it looks like its working properly.

[sdellutri]

Looks like we must have been creating our posts at almost the same time!

Its all working now. Thanks.

One thing which still does not feel right however, is that the {NR.ClockDate} and {NR.ClockTime} do not seem to update properly. At first I thought it wasnt working at all, but if you let it sit for a short while (I am not sure what the triggering event is) they eventually update. It just seems strange when you first fire up the NetRemote, and in the place where you are expecting the clock to be you see 'NR.ClockTime' for a while until it updated. I would almost rather not see anything there until the clock was ready to display.

Maybe you could make a small change to do an imediate refresh on load and then the update frequency could be kept at whatever interval makes sense?

Thanks

[Eiffel]

... I finally managed to set up Netremote to work with Girder

*** Here's the process I came up with **********

(1) download 'NR-Feedback-0.05.zip' in the Download, User Uploaded Files section of www.netremote.org

(2) download 'http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/girderplugins/LUAEvents.1.0.0.b2.zip?download', and copy the .dll in your Girder plugin directory

(2) open girder, and enable the LUAEvents plug in

(3) add a new Girder command, set it to Girder, Variable Manipulation Script. Click on Script, then File, Open and load the 'Netremote Feedback.Lua' file you just downloaded

(4) execute this command

(5) You're all set, and ready to play with the sample files

**************************

What I couldn't manage to do, is to get rc3 to work (after installing rc2, I tried copying all the files in the rc3.zip file over the old ones in my application directory, but when I do that, and launch netremote, the application shows on the task bar, and I can't maximize it/bring in to the front).... Any idea?

Thanks

[Ben S]

Ah! Got it! Clear the WindowX and WindowY registry setting. The previous settings aren't valid.

[Eiffel]

Thanks, that did it!

(The keys in questions are in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Netremote)

[cwren]

I'm still having a problem that I think first showed up in version .9831. The fonts switches from the pronto font to one that doesn't have the special characters ( like play/stop symbols) and the buttons on the templates also disapear. I have the same thing with both my PPC and on windows.

[Ben S]

Does this happen right away, or after some time?

[cwren]

It's happens after one or two minutes

[Mastiff]

So what about this "host" setting? I'ts very nice, and I get it perfectly. But try to make my wife understand IP addresses? Fuhgeddabudit! Can it be possible to change it to the computer name instead of IP? Or perhaps even letting us set it on a free basis, so 191.168.0.1 equals server? I can dream, can't I?

And what about a setting to refresh playing now on MC, not the PDA? I can add that to the Add/Play buttons, and then there will not be a discrepancy between what's actually playing and what's in Playing now on the PC. It's just sending an F5 to MC, but I can't use Girder since I jump between instances of MC.

[Ben S]

cwren - I'm on it. I notice it now on one of my PPC's as well.

Mastiff - Hostnames are supported, you don't need to use IP addresses. You even -could- use the PPC registry to create host names (I found a web page about this somewhere) to map Hosts to IP's, if you want more descriptive names.

Regarding refreshing playing now, I'll take a look.

Eiffel - Thanks for the girder write up.

[Mastiff]

Wicked, as usual you're right. I forgot that you enabled that a while ago since I never really understood the point of it for my part (I have static IP addresses on everything in my house). Thanks! 8)

[HiTekAlex]

Looks like Media Center 9 is now released as the first "official" version (built 9.0.169)

http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/

Can't wait for NetRemote to follow the suit!

[Ben S]

cwren - What ccf are you using, and what panel are you on? Can you describe your configuration information? Multiple instances of MJB, etc.?

I can't replicate this on the Win32 version, which is the easiest for me to debug.

Thanks!

[cwren]

I'll send you the ccf by email. It appears to happen the quickest when there is lots of updates happening. I have an old ccf with a skin that I can use for a day or two before the problem arises as long as I stay of the media center panel. I figure this is because the track time keeps updating every second. On my new skinless ccf, it happens very quickly on every panel. Maybe because there's a clock on it.

Thanks for the help

[cwren]

Sorry, I forgot my config info. Nothing too fancy, just one copy of Media Center 9.0169. Running girder and USB UIRT to control AV components.

[DaveS]

Ben, You indicate that this latest release only supports Media Center -- Will support for media jukebox return for any future release of netremote? Netremote is really sweet and would like to keep up to date with the enhancements you are making. I don't need all the fluff that comes with Media Center though. I bought jukebox back around version 7.2 and now am able to run 8.x. It now looks like I have to give jrivers another 40 bucks for a program I already own to keep up with your release updates. Please say it aint so. Thanks for a great program -- it's brilliant.
DaveS.

[tellis007]

I installed rc2 and it worked fine. I upgraded to rc3 and it just launches minimized and stays there. Let me know if you want me to run any tests or anything.

Tim

[Promixis]

How does one update to RC3 without the installation program?

I am a PPC newbie - I have Dell Axim.

Mike

[Promixis]

Few other questions...

1. Can the colors of toggle buttons be changed (.ie shuffle/continuos). They are easy to see on the Win32 version but on the Axim are hard to tell the state.

2. Is they are a way to provide feedback to NR if Media Center is not running? Currently, I have NR send a command to Girder to check if MC is running and if not start it up.

3. It seems if that if a list is interrupted while it is being generated (ie. as the artist/album list) is being transferred to NR it gets stuck. Or... if the library is changed, there is no way to get NR to reload the list (without restarting NR).

4. What is the RPN button for?

Ben, this is an awesome program! Had some buddies over for a few beers last week and they just about wet their pants :).

Thanks! Mike

[z.mash]

How does one update to RC3 without the installation program?

I am a PPC newbie - I have Dell Axim.

Mike

Install the release from the first post of this thread, then download the RC3 update and unzip it over the already installed version.

-Zak

[Promixis]

I was able to update the .exe but what about the dll's? I don't know where to send them on the Axim/PPC2

[Ben S]

mj - You should use the activesync explorer to drop the .dll's into the \Program Files\NetRemote directory.

As to your questions.

1) Yup. You just need Tonto to change the colors.

2) I think so. I have enabled something that checks to see if the listener is running, but you can also use Girder to check to see if a window exists, otherwise send a variable. Gavin might be able to help with this.

3) I'm looking into this error as we speak.

4) Refresh Playing Now. If the playing now changes on the server, NetRemote has no way to know it changed. This is something Tor wanted, and will be better integrated in the future.

Great to hear it's working for people!

Tellis - Delete the WindowX and WindowY registry settings (As seen earlier in this thread).

DaveS - Yes, I'll shortly add support back in for MJB 8. Probably in the next 7 days.

[Ben S]

RC4 is available.

Win32 (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-Win32-0.99rc4-update.zip)
PPC2k2 (http://www.netremote.org/dl/NetRemote-PPC2002-0.99rc4-update.zip)

Hopefully Matt from J. River will include the 2 bug fixes I've added to the MC9/RemoteServer part soon. For now, some other bugs have been resolved, or moved closer to resolution:

* Fixed bug leak with Variable destruction.
* Sped up 32 bit image loading (by a lot).
* Sped up 32 bit image rendering (only images with alpha < 255 are drawn with alpha support)
* Fixed issues with not closing certain sockets on failed connection.
* Improved stability of Media Center driver.
* Improved general stability.

Uh. That might be it.

Note that this update pack is cumulative, so you only need the RC2 install, not RC3.

Please let me know if this corrects any of the issues people are having.

[z.mash]

I'll vouch for these two being fixed:

* Sped up 32 bit image loading (by a lot).
* Sped up 32 bit image rendering (only images with alpha < 255 are drawn with alpha support)

[dkan24]

quick (possible) bug on rc4:

the blue buttons at the bottom say "far left", "left", etc. instead of stop, play, control, library.

I opened it up in Tonto and it does have the right labels, but they are not showing up correctly on my PP2002. They did with previous versions.

thanks again for such a great program!

[Ben S]

Make sure you use the .ccf included in the .zip for the demo .ccf. Some things will change as I fix some bugs that neccessitate a change to the .ccf.

This particular change was a fix for why those items weren't changing when jumping between devices.

Thanks dkan24!

[Promixis]

Ben, is there a way to change the position of a girder slider by have girder send a new value for the slider.

Reason: I am using the slider to change the volume using the girder volume command but also would like the slider to change if the "hard" vol -/+ keys are changed.

Mike

[Ben S]

Absolutely. That's the power of the new feedback system. Simply send the variable from Girder that is attached to the slider. The slider should move as you change the value from Girder.

I'll add an example to the sample .gml.

I'm sure Gavin will be making this super easy from Girder in the short future.

[brockgr]

Sorry guys - been a bit out of it recently, so I may have missed a few questions. PM me if you need me to follow up on anything (apart from documentation which I know I'm way behind on :wink: )

Anyway - setting a slider:


NetRemote.SendLabel&#40;"ZP.POSITION",n&#41;

Where n is a number on the scale of the slider.

Did I miss this - what is the CCF/Tonto side syntax of the slider object (those four numbers), and how do you decide on horizontal or vertical (I'm guessing it's by the button shape :shock: ).

Anyway stupid uses for sliders coming up in the next post!

Gavin

[brockgr]

Okay - new Zoomplayer CCF with feedback available over here (http://www.netremote.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=193)...
:D

[Ben S]

Did I miss this - what is the CCF/Tonto side syntax of the slider object (those four numbers), and how do you decide on horizontal or vertical (I'm guessing it's by the button shape ).

Nope. I need to document all of this.

Horizontal or vertical based on whether the frame it's contained in is wider than it is tall. Also, top to bottom vs bottom to top and left to right vs. right to left is decided based on whether min is less than max.

4 numbers are:

Top to bottom, Left to right sliders:
[start value],[min value],[max value],[granularity]

Bottom to Top, Right to Left sliders:
[start value],[max value],[min value],[granularity]


Granularity is how often it will fire an event into the queue. If granularity is 10, and a change of only 5 occurs, it won't fire. This is to help with performance.

[cwren]

The new version fixed the problem I was having with the fonts disappearing, thanks.

One strange thing I've noticed with the new version is whenever I push a button (hard or soft), the power light starts flashing orange. The next button push stops it flashing. I went into the sounds and notification settings and made sure nothing was checked to flash.

Not a big deal, but it would be nice if you could turn that off.

Thanks again. Keep up the good work.

[tellis007]

What's the current max color depth on PPC?

[z.mash]

tellis007,

It depends on the model, but most are now 16 bit. The old 36xx iPaqs and the Maestro are 12 bit I believe.

Zak

[Ben S]

One strange thing I've noticed with the new version is whenever I push a button (hard or soft), the power light starts flashing orange. The next button push stops it flashing. I went into the sounds and notification settings and made sure nothing was checked to flash.


That was a new feature I added so you could tell when it was "doing something". You don't like it?

I'll add an option to enable/disable it.

[cwren]

I like the idea of it flashing while it's doing something, but it keeps flashing forever (well at least until I press another button.)

[tellis007]

Zak-

I guess I meant to ask what is the max color depth Netremote will support on PPC, since it just recently went to 32 bit on a regular PC--will it support 16 bit color on a 16-bit color capable PPC?

Thanks,
Tim

[Ben S]

cwren - I think this is related to another weird bug with it repeating commands. I think I've fixed it. Please let me know if it keeps doing this with the next version to be released (RC5) in the next few days.

Tim - On the PPC I treat the display as 24 bit, and the pocket pc will figure out how to get it to the bit depth of the display. My maestro is 12 bit, and I believe the Axim is 16 bit, but I can't see a difference.

It does not support alpha transparency like the Win32 version, however.

[Promixis]

Ben,

Some bugs in RC4 - which you may already know about.

1. Both the PPC and Win32 versions will crash MC9 v.174-v.179 when they are already running and you try and start MC9.

ie. if NR is connected to the PC with MC9 running and then you restart that PC, MC9 will crash 2-3 times before it will finally start up. Terminated the NR's on the other devices stops that behaviour.

2. PPC version album lists sometimes don't populate correctly. I can't seem to reproduce this reliably so I don't have any other debug info.

3. PPC version needs to be rebooted - especially after the PPC powers off and you restart it.

If you need more info, let me know how I can help

Mike

[Ben S]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the help identifying these.

1) This is something I need to talk to the J. River guys about.

2) RC5 will have a tap and hold "Refresh" menu item, in addition to more stable library loading.

3) Rebooted because it locks after a few minutes? The new version will reinitialize the connection with the server, without requiring a reboot.

Thanks Mike!

[Ben S]

Hi everyone. I posted a new thread for the 0.99rc5 release.

It's right here (http://www.netremote.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=225).

This is a major bug fix version. Even if I've talked to you personally about a bug you've found, please retest it and confirm that it's fixed or not.

Thanks everyone!