Pronto CCF to Global Cache

[dhanford]

I have used the Pronto CCF to Global Chache conversion tool on the Global Chache webpage, but I can't get the code to be accepted.

The output looks like this:
sendir,<conn addr>:<module addr>,<ID>,33000,<count>,1,10,70,10,70,10,70,10,30,10
,30,10,30,10,70,10,30,10,30,10,70,10,30,10,30,10,3 0,10,30,10,70,10,30,10,867

I assume I need to enter something for the ",<conn addr>:<module addr>,<ID>,<count>," areas... But I haver NO idea what. Anything I have tried has not even allowed me to select OK in Tonto.

Can anyone help?

[ebariaux]

Not sure what you're trying to do.

The CCF conversion tool on the GC site is for generating a valid string to be sent directly to the GC e.g. you're writing your own program that opens a TCP/IP socket to the GC and sends the generated string.

If you have a CCF and you want to use that with NR to send IR via a GC, no conversion is required in the CCF. NetRemote will itself do the conversion and send to correct string to the GC.

All you have to do is configure the NR IR plugin to tell it that you're using a GlobalCaché (vs direct IR), the IP of the GC and the port (which is always 4998).

[dhanford]

Well... Then I might be even more confused. I loaded a CCF that I have been using on my Pronto without any issues. However, not all the buttons work.

Why would they work in my Pronto, but not in NR?

I have a mix of learned, and manualy entered codes. Again, all work in the Pronto, but on NR it seems that only the learned buttons work. Unfortunately I can not learn all of the buttons, because some are discrete codes that are not on any remote.

[Wilhelm]

I would advise you to learn all codes again with NetRemote.
There are so many disturbed codes out there, that the result really is unpredictable otherwise.
The pronto will play all codes and simply stops, when it finds a premature end of the sequence. But if you have to convert codes to different formats, you rely on the validity of the whole sequence and if somthings missing, you don't know what the converters will do.

You will see, that the code learned with netremote will work properly also on the pronto.

[dhanford]

What do I do about the codes that can't be learned?

Now I guess I need to figure out how to learn codes with NR.

[Wilhelm]

Then you will have to construct the proper code yourself. ;-)
I know that's difficult. Perhaps you cold try to learn the output of the pronto. That would at least produce a valid code.

To learn codes with NR you have to select the DirectIR in the IR-Pluging. Then enable IR-Learn mode in the tools menue.

[ebariaux]

NetRemote only supports code in raw format for the moment.

I suppose the codes you have that works on your pronto are in RC5, RC5x, or other formats.

I made a small tool a while ago to convert RC5 codes to raw format.
You can find it here http://www.tinsys.com/en/Toolbox_IR.html.

I haven't used it in a while and I'm even not sure it always works as expected. If it helps you great, otherwise ... If you find something wrong, you can always post, PM or mail me but I won't commit that I'll fix it. Might be in a couple of days, a month or never...

BTW, it might also accept RC5x code but I believe it does not produce a valid raw code.

Also note that RC5 codes use a toggle bit (one bit that toggles each time a code is sent, if the bit is not toggled between 2 codes, the receiving gear will not respond). Raw format and NR do not support this, so you need to use a trick to make this work.

Hope this does not make it even more confusing.

Anyway, as Wilhelm suggested, learning is the safest, finding something on RemoteCentral is also a good way.