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    Default Novice Questions

    Hello All
    First of all I'd like to thank WickedEwok and brockgr for their excellent work! This is some of the most exciting software shared on the net.

    In order to avoid embarrassing myself too much I've been spending quite a bit of time trying to work everything out myself but unfortunately I got to a point where I need some help with a couple of probably ignorant questions:
    a) Up to now I was using IR codes to control Netremote. Instead of using the code for the Girder driver 5001 0000 0000 0002 ffff 0000 0001 0000 and the name of button to control the event, I have been using all kinds of codes, such as 5001 0000 0000 0002 ffff 000b 000a 0000. This also seems to work - it sends the decimal representation i.e. 11.10 to Girder. Just wondering if this is meant to work like this or if I've just been lucky?
    b) I am unclear on how to get NR to send a NRCLIENT.RESEND to Girder. For some reason when use the NR on the PPC this is sent automatically and feedback buttons work immediately. On WIN2K, I need to go to a panel with MDJ buttons first and only when I skip back to a panel with Girder feedback buttons I seem to get an NRCLIENT.RESEND sent to Girder.

    Again, excellent work - thanks for making this availble publicly.

    -Martin

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    Default Re: Novice Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinSYD
    Hello All
    First of all I'd like to thank WickedEwok and brockgr for their excellent work! This is some of the most exciting software shared on the net.

    In order to avoid embarrassing myself too much I've been spending quite a bit of time trying to work everything out myself but unfortunately I got to a point where I need some help with a couple of probably ignorant questions:
    a) Up to now I was using IR codes to control Netremote. Instead of using the code for the Girder driver 5001 0000 0000 0002 ffff 0000 0001 0000 and the name of button to control the event, I have been using all kinds of codes, such as 5001 0000 0000 0002 ffff 000b 000a 0000. This also seems to work - it sends the decimal representation i.e. 11.10 to GirderJust wondering if this is meant to work like this or if I've just been lucky?
    Thatwas the 'old' way to send events to Girder. It will work, but requires creating and tracking a large number of RC5x IR codes. Plus, in Girder, when an event is received, you have to decode what function '11.10'. The new way is to use the IR Name and keep the IR code constant, allowing you to send an event like 'DVD.Play' or whatever instead of '11.10'. Both ways will work, but the new way makes a lot more sense.

    -Dave

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    Martin,

    Glad to hear you're having fun. Yes I'm afraid the learning curve is a bit steep currently. I banged my head off a wall for about a week the first time too.

    Dave has covered question A. As for B - don't worry. NR.RESEND should be sent every time you enter a feedback panel from a non-feedback panel - BUT - it is going away in the next NR version, and things should be simpler. For now, just pop in and out to a non-feedback panel, and back, when things seem to be disconnected.

    Please bare with us, and mind the sharp edges :wink: .

    Gavin

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    Default As long as we're on novice questions...

    How do I configure NetRemote to work with a Slink-e? Do I have to learn my IR codes on the Slink-e or can I send Pronto codes?

    Now for some dumb questions. Can I add a variable entry object like a slider to my CCF? I'd like to be able to send a variable as part of the payload to Girder. Can I receive payloads from Girder and display them?

    Is anyone using NetRemote with a Turtle Beach Audiotron?

    TIA for any help!

    -James

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    James,

    Slinke - If you want to just pass-thru existing Pronto codes from existing CCF's, you just need the NRIRServ. Maybe someone can comment on the current state of Slinke support. Otherwise, you can teach the codes to girder, and assign Internet Events (genertated by NR) to the codes (or multi-groups of codes).

    I'm not 100% sure what you mean by variable entry. Simplest fixed variable (oxymoron?) system is to send Internet Events of the form "EVENT(N)". N is a value coded into the CCF, but get's passed to Girder in the "pld2" variable. You can then pass this onto another command.

    Sliders also exist (in the upcoming release - Ben just showed me them - they are really cool ). These are similar in that they pass a value into a Girder variable.

    In both cases you can easily get the Girder OSD to display the values (just set pld2 to be the display text).

    Sorry no Audiotron here - I'm an M-Audio users. I'm looking forward to a CCF/GML combo doing Base Management with NetRemote sliders.

    Cheers, Gavin

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    Default Now I just need the first couple of steps!

    Hi Gavin,

    Thanks for the response. I'm still a little clueless on a couple of things. :roll:

    When I'm in Tonto creating a button to send an IR signal what do I put into the data field? Do I make two IR actions - the first with the NetRemote header and a second with the IR codes?

    As to the variable passing, let's say my receiver accepts vol(XX) commands where XX is 0-50. I'd like to be able to send the volume variable to girder to pass along to the receiver. I guess I'll wait for sliders in a future release. Tonto wouldn't know how to deal with those, right, so how would you create the CCF file?

    Is there a way to get the Girder feedback to display in NetRemote? Let's say I want to display the current surround mode - girder can ask the receiver for the info - then what?

    Are there step-by-step instructions for this somewhere?

    -James

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    Default Re: Now I just need the first couple of steps!

    Sorry NRIRSserv is not my area so I'll leave those for now (although I thought that anything that wasn't a NetRemote code got sent to the pass-thru server)

    Quote Originally Posted by jhopkin
    As to the variable passing, let's say my receiver accepts vol(XX) commands where XX is 0-50. I'd like to be able to send the volume variable to girder to pass along to the receiver. I guess I'll wait for sliders in a future release. Tonto wouldn't know how to deal with those, right, so how would you create the CCF file?
    Yes this would be an ideal application for sliders - wait for the next version and copy and paste the sliders out of thesample CCF.

    Quote Originally Posted by jhopkin
    Is there a way to get the Girder feedback to display in NetRemote? Let's say I want to display the current surround mode - girder can ask the receiver for the info - then what?
    Yes - you save these values that girder has retrieved in a variable (usually pld1) and then you run a "variable manipulation script" that calls the feedback mechanism.

    Quote Originally Posted by jhopkin
    Are there step-by-step instructions for this somewhere?
    Nope - arrgh you are about the 100th person to ask me - I really need to get this written ops: ops: ops: . Sorry! The best solution for now is to copy and paste some of the example code. Again this is going to have some changes, and probably work better, in the upcoming release.

    Cheers, Gavin

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