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    Default Girder Plugin Load Failure @ Startup

    Hi All,

    I am having a very strange issue.

    When Girder is started at windows boot up it gives me a 'Critical Error - plugin failed to load'

    When I investigate this is related to the TaskSwitch and Taskcreate plugins.

    If I enable both plugins the TaskCreate plugin fails to load at start up.

    If I only have one enabled (either) then there is no issue.

    Also another interesting point. After Girder has loaded I can manually enable the TaskCreate plugin and everything works fine.

    Very strange. Can anybody advise how to work out what is going on and fix it.

    Cheers
    Mark

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    Ok. AN update. My initial analysis was wrong.

    The issue actually resides with my FireFly plugin. And it happens when ever I do a reboot / cold boot.

    I am wondering if this may be that drivers for the X10 haven't finsihed loading yet?

    The message I get is critical error - Plugin Failed to Load.

    What is even more interesting, is that after I click ok on the error message window, girder finishes loading and the plugin works.

    Anybody got any advice?

    Regards
    Nuro

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    Sounds like the x10 drivers haven't loaded yet indeed. How are you starting Girder?
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    Hi Ron

    Thats what I thought - but I don't know how to confirm the theory. Is there a startup trace that I can look at?

    I load Girder by clicking the 'Load Girder on Windows Startup' option in settings.

    It seems to be an issue with ALL input devices. I diabled my FireFly plugin and enabled my WINFAST TV2000 XP Expert Plugin. I get the same error when I load up Girder at startup time.

    But again. If I wait until Windows is fully loaded and then start Girder Manually - No issues and the system works brilliantly.

    Is there anyway to do one of the following
    1) Determine the order of drivers loaded to ensure that the X-10 is loaded first
    2) Put a wait on Girder so that I can ensure that everything is loaded before Girder is loaded.

    I am so close to have the Perfect system - and one that my wife will accept.

    On a side note - last outsatnding issues to the perfect system for me and my wife
    1) Resolve this issue
    2) Get the firefly to 'Wake the Computer Up' on key press.

    I will be in HTPC heaven - well until the next cool gadget comes out.

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    Try metaproducts startup organizer - it will let you change the order programs are started.

    The other thing you could do is use the lua commands

    LoadPlugin (number)
    EnablePlugin (number)

    And run them after a short delay after Girder loads. I would try the above first.

    Also, what OS? What Girder version?

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    Hi Mike

    I upgraded to Girder 3.4 to see if that would fix the problem and it didn't. I have had the issue under 3.3b and 3.4.

    My windows is XP Home SP1

    I take it to enable the LUA plugin Lua-Volume Library to work?
    (Sorry I don't know anything about LUA)

    Or will this work without any additional Plugins?

    Thanks
    Mark

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    Mark,

    If you want to use lua volume, then definitely use girder 3.3.4. Enable the plugin for the lua commands to be available.

    BUT, if you want to use lua, just add a command goto the girder tab/select variable manipulation script. click script. That is where you enter code...

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    Mike,

    Thanks for the TIP.


    I will give it ago tonight when I get home. SOunds like you may have given me a solution. If it works I will be very happy.

    Regrards
    Mark

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    Guys IT WORKED !!!!!

    Love this - it is so smooth. But one question. Should Girder application priority be real-time?

    I ask because the FireFly x10 driver and Girder both set them self up at REAL-TIME priority. This just seems a bit high.

    Any thoughts?

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    No, they do not need to be real time. Girder runs as a standard app.

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