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sdemmery
March 10th, 2008, 04:25 AM
Hi Everyone,

Due to the lack of IR Direct from NR via a PPC, It looks like I may be in the market for a TCP/IP to IR device. Ive been looking at the Global Caché GC-100 or IRTrans Ethernet devices but am unsure which is the device for me.

Basically my criteria is that it should be a device I can hook onto my Network & not my PC so no USB Required. I should be able to send commands via a PPC direct to it (allowing the PC/Girder to be off) I need to control equipment in a cupboard & a plasma screen so extension IR LEDs will be required & lastly the device should allow me to learn IR remote codes. Both do this I believe with out any extra hardware. The GC-100 looks nicer but this doesn't bother me as it will be out of sight anyway.

IRTrans Ethernet (http://www.irtrans.de/en/shop/lan.php)
Global Caché GC-100 (http://www.globalcache.com/products/gc-index.html)

Anyone got any thoughts?

Cheers
Stu

Barf
March 12th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Hi Stu,

I own both. I can get them to do anything I want :-)

The forum is quite full with info on the GC. You cannot learn without extra hardware though, also its IR transmitting capacities is quite lousy: its output stage can only drive stick-on IR emitters. (I have built a special booster for it, that even fits in the case.) It is however directly supported by NR, is (using sockets programming) accessible almost (I mean ALMOST! from a programmers viewpoint) with Pronto commands. The IRtrans has quite complementary properties: if you are able to program its "data base" (they use the word "data base" to denote a local flash memory, confusion preprogrammed) with the command of the involved remotes, and you are willing to do socket programming in Lua, Irtrans will fulfill your requirements, and do it well. It does, as opposed to NR+GC, rc5-toggles correctly. Its IR-transmits (both the internal and a suitable external LED) has muscles (as opposed to GC)!!

Translating from the Irtrans' format (e.g. leaned signals) to Pronto/NR is not for the faint of heart, though...

I plan to write down some stuff on these issues in my website. Since more than a year...

sonata31
November 17th, 2008, 04:07 AM
Global Caché GC-100 or IRTrans Ethernet device for use without PC ?

sonata31
November 18th, 2008, 08:16 AM
Global Caché GC-100 or IRTrans Ethernet device for use without PC ?

Hello, an opinion on these devices ?

sonata31
November 19th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Hello, an opinion on these devices ?

Nobody for this request ?

Barf
November 22nd, 2008, 06:02 AM
@sonata31:

What was it in my contribution that you did not like?

sonata31
November 23rd, 2008, 05:39 AM
Hi Stu,

I own both. I can get them to do anything I want :-)

The forum is quite full with info on the GC. You cannot learn without extra hardware though, also its IR transmitting capacities is quite lousy: its output stage can only drive stick-on IR emitters. (I have built a special booster for it, that even fits in the case.)
(1)

It is however directly supported by NR, is (using sockets programming) accessible almost (I mean ALMOST! from a programmers viewpoint) with Pronto commands. The IRtrans has quite complementary properties: if you are able to program its "data base" (they use the word "data base" to denote a local flash memory, confusion preprogrammed) with the command of the involved remotes, and you are willing to do socket programming in Lua, Irtrans will fulfill your requirements, and do it well
(2)

. It does, as opposed to NR+GC, rc5-toggles correctly. Its IR-transmits (both the internal and a suitable external LED) has muscles (as opposed to GC)!!

Translating from the Irtrans' format (e.g. leaned signals) to Pronto/NR is not for the faint of heart, though...

I plan to write down some stuff on these issues in my website. Since more than a year...

(1) IR signal too low ?
(2) I program in lua, is complicated to drive the IRtrans ?

Barf
November 23rd, 2008, 01:21 PM
(1) IR signal too low ?

Well, not for what it has been made for: stick-on emitters. Sending IR over a room requires a booster.



(2) I program in lua, is complicated to drive the IRtrans ?
If words like "socket" and "api" are familiar to you, and you can read the appropriate documentation, no, then it is not hard.

sonata31
November 23rd, 2008, 04:44 PM
Well, not for what it has been made for: stick-on emitters. Sending IR over a room requires a booster.


If words like "socket" and "api" are familiar to you, and you can read the appropriate documentation, no, then it is not hard.

Thank You, I see this

sonata31
November 24th, 2008, 04:35 AM
Well, not for what it has been made for: stick-on emitters. Sending IR over a room requires a booster.


If words like "socket" and "api" are familiar to you, and you can read the appropriate documentation, no, then it is not hard.

Where find this documentation ?

sonata31
November 24th, 2008, 04:36 AM
Well, not for what it has been made for: stick-on emitters. Sending IR over a room requires a booster.


If words like "socket" and "api" are familiar to you, and you can read the appropriate documentation, no, then it is not hard.

Where find a booster ?

Barf
November 24th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Where find this documentation ?

IRTrans: http://www.irtrans.de/download/Docs/Installation und Bedienung IRTrans_EN-A5.pdf, http://www.irtrans.de/download/Docs/Ethernet_EN.pdf http://www.irtrans.de/download/Docs/IRTrans TCP ASCII Schnittstelle_DE.pdf (latter only in German), see also http://www.irtrans.de/forum/

GlobalCache: Documents linked on http://www.globalcache.com/support/support_docs.html in particular http://www.globalcache.com/files/Documentation/API-GC-IRL.pdf

Lua Socket Programming: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~diego/professional/luasocket/



Where find a booster ?
I built one myself, contained in the GC housing, using two transistors. Google for "ir booster" and/or "ir blaster". You will find both do-it-yourself projects and commercial products.

sonata31
November 25th, 2008, 12:57 AM
IRTrans: http://www.irtrans.de/download/Docs/Installation und Bedienung IRTrans_EN-A5.pdf, http://www.irtrans.de/download/Docs/Ethernet_EN.pdf http://www.irtrans.de/download/Docs/IRTrans TCP ASCII Schnittstelle_DE.pdf (latter only in German), see also http://www.irtrans.de/forum/

GlobalCache: Documents linked on http://www.globalcache.com/support/support_docs.html in particular http://www.globalcache.com/files/Documentation/API-GC-IRL.pdf

Lua Socket Programming: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~diego/professional/luasocket/


I built one myself, contained in the GC housing, using two transistors. Google for "ir booster" and/or "ir blaster". You will find both do-it-yourself projects and commercial products.

Thank You for your response