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wyerd
September 1st, 2003, 12:24 PM
Since it's no longer possible to buy the Philips IR receiver (unless someone knows different!), is there anyway to use the mouse mode to control the pointer on my PC? I've set up a HTPC and I use the Pronto with Girder and Irman to control Showshifter. Works great, but if I could use the mouse mode it would finish off the project.

I also have set up the Pronto with a micro keyboard with the IR codes of the Philips IR Keyboard supplied by Remote Central. Do I have to program Girder with every key's IR code and create an event for that key?

Thanks,
David.

Bitmonster
September 1st, 2003, 12:46 PM
I don't have a Pronto so I must ask some questions before I can give you an answer:

1. What kind of events does the "Mouse-Mode" generate in Girder? It could be possible to use the same approach as for the ATI-Remote-Wonder.

2. What kind of events does the "micro keyboard" generate in Girder? If the actual ascii-key-value is somewhere encoded in the events, some LUA script could be used to extract the keys. But this will supposable not be the case, so I'm afraid you have to learn every key individual.

wyerd
September 4th, 2003, 09:32 AM
I downloaded a ccf file from remote central which had the keyboard ir codes, but when I tried to teach Girder, it didn't register the same ir code from the same button on the Pronto. I've tried it a number of times.

JimBoe
September 12th, 2003, 05:51 PM
here is an Pronto PRO Accessory
Converts RF signal into IR for your equipment. Compatible with TSU6000 and TSU3000 Pronto Remotes.


hey im thinking about getting a
Pronto TS10000099 Remote

i don't know anything about remotes... any imput?? is it junk??

hollar

cesto
September 18th, 2003, 01:26 AM
Hi :D ,

In response to Bitmonster, the mouse mode protocol is RC-MM, a philips
proprietary protocol. It don't know anything about it, sorry. Is this mode,
the Pronto becomes a big infrared directional touchpad, which means it
doesn't send out raw coordinates but rather pointer's directions.

It seems a lot of people are trying to use this mode and have even asked
Philips to start producing the IR receiver again. But as far as I know no
software solution exists (although IRMan can pickup the codes sent).
I don't know anything about ATI's remote, but it could be similar ??? :-?

JimBoe: What Pronto PRO Accessory are you refering to exactly ? :roll:

l8er, Cesto

Bitmonster
September 18th, 2003, 06:17 AM
I don't know anything about ATI's remote, but it could be similar ??? :-?

No, the ATi remote only sends 8-way directions. If this mouse mode also reacts different on how far you move your finger from the center, then it's not possible, with this simply approach. But:
Do you know how fine the resolution of a Pronto touchpanel is (not the resolution of the display)? It may be possible, that the resolution is quite rough and the resulting amount of ir-codes is somewhat limited. Then it might be possible to capture every code and create a similar script.

It's quite funny, that there is no solution yet, since many people use these Prontos.

cesto
September 18th, 2003, 06:48 AM
It's quite funny, that there is no solution yet, since many people use these Prontos.

Yes I have to agree that is funny. The funniest is that Philips doesn't
realize there is a real market for this. and they have already developped
this receiver... Maybe we should petition for this !!! :lol:

In fact you can live without this mouse mode, only using mouse "buttons"
to move the mouse pointer , which in a way would be similar to the
ATI remote, if I understand what you are saying. But I have read
reports of people using this mouse mode (with the philips receiver) and
they think it is just great.

I'm afraid that the resolution is not that rough, so there would be no way
to learn each IR code separately. It has to be a real protocol. I will try
and see if I can understand it and do some reverse engineering... :-? :-?

l8er, Cesto

cesto
September 18th, 2003, 06:53 AM
It's quite funny, that there is no solution yet, since many people use these Prontos.

Yes I have to agree that is funny. The funniest is that Philips doesn't
realize there is a real market for this. and they have already developped
this receiver... Maybe we should petition for this !!! :lol:

In fact you can live without this mouse mode, only using mouse "buttons"
to move the mouse pointer , which in a way would be similar to the
ATI remote, if I understand what you are saying. But I have read
reports of people using this mouse mode (with the philips receiver) and
they think it is just great.

I'm afraid that the resolution is not that rough, so there would be no way
to learn each IR code separately. It has to be a real protocol. I will try
and see if I can understand it and do some reverse engineering... :-? :-?

l8er, Cesto