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Thread: Can Girder control a Nest thermostat?

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    Default Can Girder control a Nest thermostat?

    I want to put in a Nest thermostat but I need to be able to control it from Girder to meet my home automation needs. Controlling the Nest through the Nest iPhone app is not good enough.

    Does anyone know if/how I can do this? I'm using G5.

    Thanks!

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    id say according to this:
    https://developer.nest.com/documentation/api-reference
    and similar pages
    it almost certainly could with a bit of lua
    jon.

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    and this as some reading
    https://developer.nest.com/documentation
    jon

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    Thanks for the info... I figured it could with some custom lua coding however I am definitely not a developer and was hoping there would be some sort of "plugin" that exists already... I guess there is no such thing? This would be a really cool integration but unfortunately I don't have the programming skills to do this :-(

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    I use the heatmiser 12v prtn thermostats which I've written custom code to integrate into my home automation system.
    Would they suit?
    They do need to be wired via rs485 to the pc rather than via wifi though, so are more difficult to retro fit.
    I added one to each room during my house renovation, with fully zoned ufch.
    Jon.

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    I currently use an Insteon thermostat and control it via Mike's Insteon PLM component. It works very well and I really don't have any complaints, however with the Nest, assuming I could have the same level of control from girder, I see the following benefits:

    1) It looks so much nicer

    2) My utility provider supports the Nest "seasonal savings" and "rush hour rewards" programs:
    https://nest.com/ca/support/article/...asonal-Savings
    https://nest.com/ca/support/article/...h-Hour-Rewards

    3) Although I have a good schedule already programmed and have the ability to remotely control the Insteon thermostat, Nest adds additional automatic intelligence. I've already programmed some additional intelligence into my Insteon thermostat via girder (like to shut off my A/C for 10min every hour on very hot days to prevent the coils from freezing due to the possibility of continuous operation) but it will never be at the level of what Nest can offer. And if I had both options, I'd have even more flexibility and control.

    4) Nest has greatly expanded their ecosystem of "works with Nest" partners - for example a Kevo smart lock can now tell the Nest to turn down the temperature when you leave your house

    5) It looks so much nicer (wait I said that already lol)

    The reason I really want remote control from Girder so much is that I have a couple of instances of NetRemote running on touchscreens in my house that allow me to adjust the thermostat - think watching a movie in your home theater and want to change the room temperature without having to go upstairs. Nest does have an iPhone app, however you don't always have that in your pocket when you are in your house so the Girder/NetRemote control is ideal in this specific use case.

    Insteon currently supports control of the Nest through their Hub product and in a separate post I've asked Mike to look into the possibility of adding support for the hub into his PLM... but I was just wondering if there was any other "direct" way of controlling a Nest through Girder...

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    ...So I take it there is no easy way to do this then, without signing up for the Nest developer program and writing my own lua code in Girder?

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    Girder 6 has Nest control built in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Girder 6 has Nest control built in...
    Ron, for many reasons (but mainly due to my huge dependence upon Mike's Insteon PLM component) I need to stick with Girder 5 for the foreseeable future. Is there a way to do this in G5?

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    short of integrating the nest api yourself I'm afraid for Girder 5 there is no way.
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